From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Drew Adams Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#965: 23.0.60; filesets doc Date: Sun, 9 Feb 2014 20:27:10 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <1b996734-0924-4dea-b051-b7f8559d3682@default> References: <000001c91486$11e281c0$0200a8c0@us.oracle.com> <87txc7fx9z.fsf@building.gnus.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1392006505 30286 80.91.229.3 (10 Feb 2014 04:28:25 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2014 04:28:25 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 965@debbugs.gnu.org To: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Feb 10 05:28:30 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1WCiTs-0005oI-H3 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 10 Feb 2014 05:28:28 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:53318 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WCiTs-0003BY-46 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 09 Feb 2014 23:28:28 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:49420) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WCiTg-0003BB-5F for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 09 Feb 2014 23:28:24 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WCiTS-0004Gp-0A for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 09 Feb 2014 23:28:16 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:47596) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WCiTR-0004Gd-T2 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 09 Feb 2014 23:28:01 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WCiTR-0003H5-IC for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 09 Feb 2014 23:28:01 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Drew Adams Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2014 04:28:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 965 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 965-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B965.139200643612531 (code B ref 965); Mon, 10 Feb 2014 04:28:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 965) by debbugs.gnu.org; 10 Feb 2014 04:27:16 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:33382 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WCiSi-0003G3-AF for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 09 Feb 2014 23:27:16 -0500 Original-Received: from aserp1040.oracle.com ([141.146.126.69]:32814) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WCiSh-0003Fw-Do for 965@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 09 Feb 2014 23:27:15 -0500 Original-Received: from acsinet22.oracle.com (acsinet22.oracle.com [141.146.126.238]) by aserp1040.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2/Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2) with ESMTP id s1A4RDYV018681 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Mon, 10 Feb 2014 04:27:14 GMT Original-Received: from aserz7022.oracle.com (aserz7022.oracle.com [141.146.126.231]) by acsinet22.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id s1A4RD0a028114 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 10 Feb 2014 04:27:13 GMT Original-Received: from abhmp0005.oracle.com (abhmp0005.oracle.com [141.146.116.11]) by aserz7022.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id s1A4RDBT028110; Mon, 10 Feb 2014 04:27:13 GMT In-Reply-To: <87txc7fx9z.fsf@building.gnus.org> X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Oracle Beehive Extensions for Outlook 2.0.1.8 (707110) [OL 12.0.6680.5000 (x86)] X-Source-IP: acsinet22.oracle.com [141.146.126.238] X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:85180 Archived-At: > > 1. ... > Seems to be fixed now. Yes. > > 2. ... >=20 > Adding these spelling variations to the index doesn't seem very > productive. And yet "sets of files" was added by someone. Good; that helps. > > 3. ... >=20 > Can't find that string in the manual. This too was fixed. Items 4, 5, 6, 7, and 8 of this detailed doc report have NOT been fixed. The bug is still open. And there are still plenty of good suggestions for fixing the problems - in the original bug report. > > 7. There is nothing in the Emacs-Lisp manual about filesets. The > > fileset features and the Emacs Lisp behind them (e.g. keywords) > > should be explained (somewhere). Presumably, filesets should be > > of interest to Lisp programmers. >=20 > It seems more useful to users than to Lisp programmers. I've never > heard of the stuff until now. OK, since Lars has never heard of it, and Lars is an Emacs-Lisp user, this cannot be interesting to other Lisp programmers. ;-) And yet there is plenty of 3rd-party use of filesets and the fileset code... > Anyway, closing. Reopening. You ignored 4, 5, 6, 7, and 8 - all major parts of the bug report. And you also ignored this, from a followup message: >> Shouldn't this be eliminated entirely as a user option? >>=20 >> (defcustom filesets-find-file-delay ... >> "... Set this to 0, if you don't use XEmacs' buffer tabs."...) >>=20 >> What's the point of having an option whose value (for GNU Emacs) >> should always be 0?