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Tue, 28 Apr 2020 14:10:48 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: Content-Language: en-US X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-Received-From: 209.51.188.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:179250 Archived-At: On 28.04.2020 23:09, Paul Eggert wrote: > The word "constant" means different things in different programming languages. > The meaning used in the Elisp manual is reasonably close to its meaning in > C/C++/Fortran/Common Lisp/etc., and that describes how Emacs behaves now. As we've pointed out, Elisp is a wildly different beast from C. Static vs. dynamic, etcetera. > Of course not, but this area needs documentation and when the Emacs concept is > similar to an already-existing one in C/C++/etc. Not really. > Then I don't understand your suggestion. > > I thought you were saying that we should distinguish among the types of > constants and should say what happens when you modify each type. Which part of my example contained the "what happens when"? > A simple way to be clear in this area is to propose specific wording changes, > preferably in git format-patch form. It's not enough to say "I don't like the > word 'constant'." Could you first provide the list of your commits that changed the manual pertaining to this discussion? Then I'll at least know what to try to change. > Yes, and the documentation does that now. The edge of the wild is the line > between constants and non-constants. Write that line between fizzleworp and non-fizzleworp values.