From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Drew Adams Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#31790: 27.0; Mention Isearch key bindings of Isedarch variables that are bound by default in Isearch Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2018 15:57:21 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <1a1d806c-4f7f-4af4-a9e2-b4b6f474e792@default> References: <> <<83vaajynvp.fsf@gnu.org>> <9684bd5c-352c-4c83-9d05-e3d339f3e3d6@default> <83in6izrow.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1529189768 23743 195.159.176.226 (16 Jun 2018 22:56:08 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2018 22:56:08 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 31790@debbugs.gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Jun 17 00:56:03 2018 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1fUK71-00063f-5v for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; 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Sat, 16 Jun 2018 22:57:24 GMT Original-Received: from abhmp0007.oracle.com (abhmp0007.oracle.com [141.146.116.13]) by userv0121.oracle.com (8.14.4/8.13.8) with ESMTP id w5GMvNaf015420; Sat, 16 Jun 2018 22:57:24 GMT In-Reply-To: <83in6izrow.fsf@gnu.org> X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Oracle Beehive Extensions for Outlook 2.0.1.9.1 (1003210) [OL 16.0.4690.0 (x86)] X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=nai engine=5900 definitions=8926 signatures=668702 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 suspectscore=0 malwarescore=0 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 spamscore=0 mlxscore=0 mlxlogscore=515 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=8.0.1-1805220000 definitions=main-1806160276 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 208.118.235.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:147543 Archived-At: > And having that in a doc string of a non-user variable will make it > easier to pick up? Yes. > > It just makes sense to point out, in the doc for these > > two variables that, by default, `M-s SPC' toggles them > > while searching. >=20 > Like I said, I disagree. >=20 > Maybe we should provide defcustoms that would initialize the values of > these variables. Then it would make sense to tell what you want in > those defcustoms' doc strings, like we do with search-invisible, for > example. That takes care of letting users set the default behavior, yes. It doesn't, however, tell them anything about being able to hit a key while searching to toggle the current behavior. If you add defcustoms and then mention in their doc strings that the _current_ behavior can be toggled with `M-s SPC' then that would take care of this bug report. Users will naturally want to (1) set their preferred default behavior or (2) toggle the current behavior, or both. The point is to help them better to know how they can do these things (which they can do already).