From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Drew Adams" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#11182: 24.0.93; In *shell* buffer, '?' can't be inserted after TAB. Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2012 13:43:49 -0700 Message-ID: <1FEF0D23A7E14962BF909AC9B7B7DE2A@us.oracle.com> References: <83ehs1b3zk.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1333745076 3892 80.91.229.3 (6 Apr 2012 20:44:36 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2012 20:44:36 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 11182@debbugs.gnu.org To: "'Eli Zaretskii'" , "'Kenichi Handa'" Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Apr 06 22:44:33 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1SGG1E-0007Li-FM for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 06 Apr 2012 22:44:28 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:39978 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SGG1D-0007Qc-Oq for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 06 Apr 2012 16:44:27 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:44909) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SGG1A-0007Q9-5z for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 06 Apr 2012 16:44:25 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SGG18-0004ng-DG for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 06 Apr 2012 16:44:23 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:46335) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SGG18-0004nb-A3 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 06 Apr 2012 16:44:22 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SGG1m-0004fn-9p for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 06 Apr 2012 16:45:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: "Drew Adams" Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 06 Apr 2012 20:45:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 11182 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 11182-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B11182.133374508117917 (code B ref 11182); Fri, 06 Apr 2012 20:45:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 11182) by debbugs.gnu.org; 6 Apr 2012 20:44:41 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:42873 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SGG1Q-0004ew-Bi for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 06 Apr 2012 16:44:40 -0400 Original-Received: from rcsinet15.oracle.com ([148.87.113.117]:18881) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SGG1N-0004en-Cw for 11182@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 06 Apr 2012 16:44:38 -0400 Original-Received: from ucsinet22.oracle.com (ucsinet22.oracle.com [156.151.31.94]) by rcsinet15.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.2.2/Sentrion-MTA-4.2.2) with ESMTP id q36Kht3p030611 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Fri, 6 Apr 2012 20:43:56 GMT Original-Received: from acsmt357.oracle.com (acsmt357.oracle.com [141.146.40.157]) by ucsinet22.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id q36KhrQ6000644 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Fri, 6 Apr 2012 20:43:54 GMT Original-Received: from abhmt118.oracle.com (abhmt118.oracle.com [141.146.116.70]) by acsmt357.oracle.com (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id q36Khrnn014362; Fri, 6 Apr 2012 15:43:53 -0500 Original-Received: from dradamslap1 (/10.159.49.156) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Fri, 06 Apr 2012 13:43:52 -0700 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.6157 In-Reply-To: <83ehs1b3zk.fsf@gnu.org> Thread-Index: Ac0T2HuIKINFzWTZSAmTSEvf1rtR3wAXKkWQ X-Source-IP: ucsinet22.oracle.com [156.151.31.94] X-CT-RefId: str=0001.0A090209.4F7F558C.0031,ss=1,re=0.000,fgs=0 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:58566 Archived-At: > Shouldn't Shell Mode and its derivatives remap that to M-? or some > such? `?' is too frequent a character in command-line interfaces to > have it bound to anything other than self-insert-command, IMO. At > least both Bash and GDB bind that function to M-?, and I think Emacs > should follow suit. FWIW - `M-?' is what Icicles uses for (minibuffer) completion help. I think it's nuts that vanilla Emacs still uses ordinary, printing chars such as `?' and `newline' for special minibuffer commands, instead of just inserting them. And even `SPC' outside of (finally!) file names. A user is more likely to expect `?' to self-insert than to think s?he should use `C-q ?' to insert a `?'. Yes, I know you've heard it before... But glad to hear Eli in favor of `M-?' here.