From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Sebastian Wiesner Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#18077: 24.4.50; Info-quoted face should inherit default Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2014 10:58:56 +0200 Message-ID: <1D8FB3F1-0916-4C33-8C9D-A9C91774682D@lunaryorn.com> References: <8761ipn711.fsf@lunaryorn.fritz.box> <9C6E94EB-5A94-49E6-BCE4-A08FCB6830A6@lunaryorn.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 7.3 \(1878.6\)) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1406365229 11281 80.91.229.3 (26 Jul 2014 09:00:29 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2014 09:00:29 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 18077@debbugs.gnu.org To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Jul 26 11:00:20 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1XAxq0-0000Xs-Hb for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 26 Jul 2014 11:00:20 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:58271 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XAxpz-0006xC-Td for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 26 Jul 2014 05:00:19 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:45038) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XAxpq-0006w0-Nh for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 26 Jul 2014 05:00:17 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XAxpk-0005Qm-Ij for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 26 Jul 2014 05:00:10 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:43284) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XAxpk-0005Q5-Da for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 26 Jul 2014 05:00:04 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1XAxpj-0002h6-Q0 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 26 Jul 2014 05:00:03 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Sebastian Wiesner Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2014 09:00:03 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 18077 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 18077-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B18077.140636514510249 (code B ref 18077); Sat, 26 Jul 2014 09:00:03 +0000 Original-Received: (at 18077) by debbugs.gnu.org; 26 Jul 2014 08:59:05 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:38550 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1XAxom-0002fE-Ti for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 26 Jul 2014 04:59:05 -0400 Original-Received: from vega.uberspace.de ([95.143.172.245]:38598) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1XAxok-0002eo-07 for 18077@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 26 Jul 2014 04:59:03 -0400 Original-Received: (qmail 4664 invoked from network); 26 Jul 2014 08:58:59 -0000 Original-Received: from localhost (HELO lunaryorn-air.fritz.box) (127.0.0.1) by vega.uberspace.de with SMTP; 26 Jul 2014 08:58:59 -0000 In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1878.6) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:91818 Archived-At: >>> The whole purpose of this is to make quoted text appear different, = so we >>> don't want to use the default face. >> A different style or color would not be sufficient? >=20 > To me "courier" is a different style. >=20 > Making it bold or italic or colored would not really match my > expectations as a reader of such documentation. What expectations? =20 With respect, Info didn=92t use different face for quoted text for ages. = Did the expectations of the readers change all of a sudden? And if it=92s just *your* expectation and your preference, doesn=92t it = belong into your personal "init.el" then? >> With respect, I mean no offense, but did you actually look at the >> screenshots that I attached to my previous mail? >=20 > No, I didn't notice them, and they don't appear very well in my tty > connection ;-) Oh, well, they are of quite some importance, since they happen to = demonstrate what this is all about: That courier is not consistently of = good quality, and can be a very poor font on some systems. > Have you looked at whether or not face-font-family-alternatives would > provide a good fix? I=92m not sure whether I can follow. I mean, I could add an arbitrary = =93good=94 font as alias for "courier" myself, but then I could just = customize the "Info-quoted" face right away (which is what I=92m doing = currently). And if the system can=92t provide proper courier font or alias, how = could Emacs do any better?=