From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Van Ly Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#53188: 28.0.90; if tooltip-mode is off, modeline context menu blocks minibuffer at column 36 Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2022 11:16:36 +0000 (UTC) Organization: Super Dimensional Fortress Message-ID: <19ac9b5c-a097-82da-80c-361b66415a16@SDF.ORG> References: <7ea6e621-6d7b-7b2-2cd6-25da43551ed@SDF.ORG> <83mtk26vm9.fsf@gnu.org> <16f899bf-98e3-662-c5b7-21f120a86a0@SDF.ORG> <83y23k2bxd.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="27884"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: 53188@debbugs.gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Thu Jan 13 12:17:34 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1n7y6n-00073H-RT for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 13 Jan 2022 12:17:33 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:48270 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1n7y6m-0001AC-IG for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 13 Jan 2022 06:17:32 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:56326) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1n7y6I-000193-Ef for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 13 Jan 2022 06:17:02 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:39187) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1n7y6I-0007au-5m for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 13 Jan 2022 06:17:02 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1n7y6H-0000qh-Vl for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 13 Jan 2022 06:17:01 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Van Ly Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2022 11:17:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 53188 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: confirmed Original-Received: via spool by 53188-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B53188.16420726053234 (code B ref 53188); Thu, 13 Jan 2022 11:17:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 53188) by debbugs.gnu.org; 13 Jan 2022 11:16:45 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:60323 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1n7y61-0000q5-2Z for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 13 Jan 2022 06:16:45 -0500 Original-Received: from mx.sdf.org ([205.166.94.24]:59226) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1n7y5w-0000ps-R9 for 53188@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 13 Jan 2022 06:16:43 -0500 Original-Received: from sdf.org (IDENT:van.ly@faeroes.freeshell.org [205.166.94.9]) by mx.sdf.org (8.15.2/8.14.5) with ESMTPS id 20DBGdc2001520 (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256 bits) verified NO); Thu, 13 Jan 2022 11:16:39 GMT Original-Received: from localhost (van.ly@localhost) by sdf.org (8.15.2/8.12.8/Submit) with ESMTP id 20DBGbqu004585; Thu, 13 Jan 2022 11:16:37 GMT In-Reply-To: <83y23k2bxd.fsf@gnu.org> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:224095 Archived-At: On Thu, 13 Jan 2022, Eli Zaretskii wrote: >> Maybe tooltip-mode should be silent in the echo-area once nil is set. > > I don't think I follow: do you mean that we should suppress _all_ > help-echo text when tooltip-mode is nil? That'd be too drastic, I > think, and unjustified. > The text associated with the tooltip is helpful early on but becomes an annoying visual nag once you are familiar with what that thing does. I had tooltip-mode set nil. I didn't expect the echo area to contain the tooltip. There was text in the echo area and I couldn't get the modeline context menu out of the way to read it. When I restarted in 'emacs -Q' to report the bug I discovered the echo area partially contained the tooltip text because tooltip-mode is default on. My point is if there is text I want, I want to be able to read all of it. If I've set tooltip-mode nil then I expect tooltip text masked out from every output channel. -- vl