* bug#8399: 23.3; save-some-buffers ignores buffer names
@ 2011-03-31 21:33 Uday S Reddy
2011-04-01 1:01 ` Stefan Monnier
0 siblings, 1 reply; 11+ messages in thread
From: Uday S Reddy @ 2011-03-31 21:33 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: 8399; +Cc: U.S.Reddy
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The save-some-buffers command queries the user as to which buffers
should be saved. However, if the buffer has a file-name, it uses the
file-name in the dialogue instead of the buffer name. If the buffer
name happens to differ from the buffer's file-name, this is confusing to
the users. (It happens quite frequently in VM, which uses obscure
file-names for the caches of POP/IMAP folders, but the buffer names are
recognizable.)
The attached patch (on Emacs-23 head) modifies the dialogue so that
file-names are used in the dialogue only when they coincide with the
buffer names. Otherwise, buffer names are used preferentially.
Cheers,
Uday
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<down-mouse-1> <mouse-1> q <switch-frame> <switch-frame>
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Refining difference region 1 ...
Refining difference region 2 ...
Refining difference region 3 ...
Saving old diff region #3 of buffer A. To recover, type `ra' [2 times]
Only white-space differences in region 3
Quit this Ediff session? (y or n)
Saving file d:/gnu/emacs-23-dev/lisp/files.el...
Wrote d:/gnu/emacs-23-dev/lisp/files.el
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=== modified file 'lisp/files.el'
--- lisp/files.el 2011-03-11 12:19:08 +0000
+++ lisp/files.el 2011-03-31 21:23:03 +0000
@@ -4511,7 +4511,10 @@
(if arg
t
(setq queried t)
- (if (buffer-file-name buffer)
+ (if (and (buffer-file-name buffer)
+ (equal (buffer-name buffer)
+ (file-name-nondirectory
+ (buffer-file-name buffer))))
(format "Save file %s? "
(buffer-file-name buffer))
(format "Save buffer %s? "
^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 11+ messages in thread* bug#8399: 23.3; save-some-buffers ignores buffer names
2011-03-31 21:33 bug#8399: 23.3; save-some-buffers ignores buffer names Uday S Reddy
@ 2011-04-01 1:01 ` Stefan Monnier
2011-04-01 8:39 ` Uday S Reddy
2020-08-25 13:29 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
0 siblings, 2 replies; 11+ messages in thread
From: Stefan Monnier @ 2011-04-01 1:01 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Uday S Reddy; +Cc: 8399
> The attached patch (on Emacs-23 head) modifies the dialogue so that
> file-names are used in the dialogue only when they coincide with the
> buffer names. Otherwise, buffer names are used preferentially.
I think the file-name is only useful when you have buffer "file",
"file<2>", "file<3>", ... so your check is going in the right direction
but it should also use file-name when the buffer name matches
(concat "\\<" (regexp-quote (file-name-nondirectory buffer-file-name))
"<[0-9]+>\\'"), and it should never use file-names when uniquify
is used.
IMNSHO,
Stefan
^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 11+ messages in thread* bug#8399: 23.3; save-some-buffers ignores buffer names
2011-04-01 1:01 ` Stefan Monnier
@ 2011-04-01 8:39 ` Uday S Reddy
2011-04-01 14:53 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-08-25 13:29 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
1 sibling, 1 reply; 11+ messages in thread
From: Uday S Reddy @ 2011-04-01 8:39 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Stefan Monnier; +Cc: Uday S Reddy, 8399
Stefan Monnier writes:
> I think the file-name is only useful when you have buffer "file",
> "file<2>", "file<3>", ... so your check is going in the right direction
> but it should also use file-name when the buffer name matches
> (concat "\\<" (regexp-quote (file-name-nondirectory buffer-file-name))
> "<[0-9]+>\\'"), and it should never use file-names when uniquify
> is used.
Thanks Stefan. I didn't think of the file<n> case. I will submit a
revised patch. Is uniquifying file-names something that Emacs does?
Or, were you just referring to the VM's cache folder names?
Cheers,
Uday
^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 11+ messages in thread
* bug#8399: 23.3; save-some-buffers ignores buffer names
2011-04-01 1:01 ` Stefan Monnier
2011-04-01 8:39 ` Uday S Reddy
@ 2020-08-25 13:29 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-08-25 14:01 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-08-25 14:42 ` Eli Zaretskii
1 sibling, 2 replies; 11+ messages in thread
From: Lars Ingebrigtsen @ 2020-08-25 13:29 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Stefan Monnier; +Cc: Uday S Reddy, 8399
Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> writes:
>> The attached patch (on Emacs-23 head) modifies the dialogue so that
>> file-names are used in the dialogue only when they coincide with the
>> buffer names. Otherwise, buffer names are used preferentially.
>
> I think the file-name is only useful when you have buffer "file",
> "file<2>", "file<3>", ... so your check is going in the right direction
> but it should also use file-name when the buffer name matches
> (concat "\\<" (regexp-quote (file-name-nondirectory buffer-file-name))
> "<[0-9]+>\\'"), and it should never use file-names when uniquify
> is used.
> IMNSHO,
>
> Stefan
Did I get the gist right below? I'm not really sure about whether it's
useful to prefer the buffer names in this way, though -- the use case
here was VM, which has meaningful buffer names that visit obscure
files... but is that normal? Isn't it more useful to know what files
you're saving to, and not what buffers they're coming from?
diff --git a/lisp/files.el b/lisp/files.el
index b6abafa4bd..4110412b47 100644
--- a/lisp/files.el
+++ b/lisp/files.el
@@ -5565,7 +5565,20 @@ save-some-buffers
(if arg
t
(setq queried t)
- (if (buffer-file-name buffer)
+ (if (and
+ (buffer-file-name buffer)
+ (not uniquify-buffer-name-style)
+ (or
+ (equal (buffer-name buffer)
+ (file-name-nondirectory
+ (buffer-file-name buffer)))
+ (string-match
+ (concat "\\<"
+ (regexp-quote
+ (file-name-nondirectory
+ buffer-file-name))
+ "<[0-9]+>\\'")
+ (buffer-name buffer))))
(format "Save file %s? "
(buffer-file-name buffer))
(format "Save buffer %s? "
--
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no
^ permalink raw reply related [flat|nested] 11+ messages in thread* bug#8399: 23.3; save-some-buffers ignores buffer names
2020-08-25 13:29 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
@ 2020-08-25 14:01 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-08-25 14:05 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-08-25 14:42 ` Eli Zaretskii
1 sibling, 1 reply; 11+ messages in thread
From: Stefan Monnier @ 2020-08-25 14:01 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Lars Ingebrigtsen; +Cc: Uday S Reddy, 8399
> Did I get the gist right below? I'm not really sure about whether it's
> useful to prefer the buffer names in this way, though -- the use case
> here was VM, which has meaningful buffer names that visit obscure
> files... but is that normal?
I think it's rare for buffer-names to be different from its file name,
and usually if there's a difference the buffer-name is more meaningful
(as in the VM case).
But I'd be surprised if we couldn't find counter examples.
> Isn't it more useful to know what files you're saving to, and not what
> buffers they're coming from?
Maybe we should choose (i.e. display both)?
Stefan
^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 11+ messages in thread* bug#8399: 23.3; save-some-buffers ignores buffer names
2020-08-25 13:29 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-08-25 14:01 ` Stefan Monnier
@ 2020-08-25 14:42 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-08-25 14:48 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
1 sibling, 1 reply; 11+ messages in thread
From: Eli Zaretskii @ 2020-08-25 14:42 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Lars Ingebrigtsen; +Cc: u.s.reddy, monnier, 8399
> From: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org>
> Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2020 15:29:03 +0200
> Cc: Uday S Reddy <u.s.reddy@cs.bham.ac.uk>, 8399@debbugs.gnu.org
>
> Isn't it more useful to know what files you're saving to, and not
> what buffers they're coming from?
In the usual case, i.e. where the file name is not something invented
by a VM or somesuch, I think the file name is more useful, yes. Or at
least it could be. So maybe we should offer this as an optional
feature, as I presume the OP's use case is somewhat rare?
^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 11+ messages in thread
* bug#8399: 23.3; save-some-buffers ignores buffer names
2020-08-25 14:42 ` Eli Zaretskii
@ 2020-08-25 14:48 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-08-25 15:01 ` Eli Zaretskii
0 siblings, 1 reply; 11+ messages in thread
From: Lars Ingebrigtsen @ 2020-08-25 14:48 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Eli Zaretskii; +Cc: u.s.reddy, monnier, 8399
Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:
> In the usual case, i.e. where the file name is not something invented
> by a VM or somesuch, I think the file name is more useful, yes. Or at
> least it could be. So maybe we should offer this as an optional
> feature, as I presume the OP's use case is somewhat rare?
Sorry; I didn't see this before I made the change. Does the new
behaviour (showing both names if they're dissimilar) look OK to you?
--
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no
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* bug#8399: 23.3; save-some-buffers ignores buffer names
2020-08-25 14:48 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
@ 2020-08-25 15:01 ` Eli Zaretskii
0 siblings, 0 replies; 11+ messages in thread
From: Eli Zaretskii @ 2020-08-25 15:01 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Lars Ingebrigtsen; +Cc: u.s.reddy, monnier, 8399
> From: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org>
> Cc: u.s.reddy@cs.bham.ac.uk, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, 8399@debbugs.gnu.org
> Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2020 16:48:57 +0200
>
> Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:
>
> > In the usual case, i.e. where the file name is not something invented
> > by a VM or somesuch, I think the file name is more useful, yes. Or at
> > least it could be. So maybe we should offer this as an optional
> > feature, as I presume the OP's use case is somewhat rare?
>
> Sorry; I didn't see this before I made the change.
Sorry, I had communications problems that prevented me from responding
immediately.
> Does the new behaviour (showing both names if they're dissimilar)
> look OK to you?
I guess it's okay, except that it makes the message longer, so could
cause resizing of the echo-area more frequently. But since the
additional text is only produced when there's more than one buffer
with the same base-name of its visited file name, I guess that's not a
disaster. Let's see if users complain.
Thanks.
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