From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Drew Adams" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#13052: 24.3.50; mention recent change of `kbd' to a function in NEWS Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2012 20:07:08 -0800 Message-ID: <1912812BDF6B490FAA156D879299DD7C@us.oracle.com> References: <4A0D4F56F5644FECA0E1476F42EA84E8@us.oracle.com> <8B94F420D989475D8089DCF31ECF8EAC@us.oracle.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1354421270 29264 80.91.229.3 (2 Dec 2012 04:07:50 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2012 04:07:50 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 13052@debbugs.gnu.org To: "'Juanma Barranquero'" Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Dec 02 05:08:03 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Tf0qY-0004sA-PU for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 02 Dec 2012 05:08:02 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:39541 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Tf0qN-0000CY-0L for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 01 Dec 2012 23:07:51 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:48003) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Tf0qL-0000CT-3P for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 01 Dec 2012 23:07:49 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Tf0qK-0005F2-0C for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 01 Dec 2012 23:07:49 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:38829) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Tf0qJ-0005Ey-TJ for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 01 Dec 2012 23:07:47 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Tf0sU-0000Yi-1c for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 01 Dec 2012 23:10:02 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: "Drew Adams" Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 02 Dec 2012 04:10:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 13052 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 13052-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B13052.13544213762110 (code B ref 13052); Sun, 02 Dec 2012 04:10:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 13052) by debbugs.gnu.org; 2 Dec 2012 04:09:36 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:49080 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Tf0s4-0000Xz-BY for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 01 Dec 2012 23:09:36 -0500 Original-Received: from userp1040.oracle.com ([156.151.31.81]:50247) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Tf0s1-0000Xq-Sh for 13052@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 01 Dec 2012 23:09:35 -0500 Original-Received: from acsinet22.oracle.com (acsinet22.oracle.com [141.146.126.238]) by userp1040.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.2.2/Sentrion-MTA-4.2.2) with ESMTP id qB247HH3006290 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Sun, 2 Dec 2012 04:07:18 GMT Original-Received: from acsmt356.oracle.com (acsmt356.oracle.com [141.146.40.156]) by acsinet22.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id qB247HoB011521 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sun, 2 Dec 2012 04:07:17 GMT Original-Received: from abhmt119.oracle.com (abhmt119.oracle.com [141.146.116.71]) by acsmt356.oracle.com (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id qB247GQW023382; Sat, 1 Dec 2012 22:07:16 -0600 Original-Received: from dradamslap1 (/71.202.147.44) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Sat, 01 Dec 2012 20:07:16 -0800 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: Thread-Index: Ac3QQDRyYLMIqs9gTquVSuuBTGI1BwAAZICA X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.6157 X-Source-IP: acsinet22.oracle.com [141.146.126.238] X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:67763 Archived-At: > > Why? What makes it special? > > Do you really think that there are many things in byte-opt.el intended > for third-party packages? The only reference to it in the docs is in > Writing Emacs Primitives, which is not exactly lisp-level stuff. The application of property `pure' to `kbd' is not in byte-opt.el. It is in subr.el. And in my code it would, likewise, be in an ordinary Lisp library. I was just asking whether you know of something that makes this special to Emacs Dev and not appropriate for user libraries. If you don't know of anything, fine; perhaps someone else does. It is a question: whether `pure' is information that users can reasonably use to inform the byte compiler that a function is what the compiler would expect of a pure function, i.e., what the code you pointed me to would expect, in order to be able to perform that particular optimization.