From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Brent Goodrick Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs,gmane.emacs.pretest.bugs Subject: bug#2061: 23.0.60; Add preference to force load of Elisp files when they are newer than corresponding byte-compiled file Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 07:56:15 -0800 Message-ID: <18815.11935.529593.18833@hungover.brentg.com> References: <18813.7599.138907.415045@hungover.brentg.com> Reply-To: Brent Goodrick , 2061@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1233073451 25889 80.91.229.12 (27 Jan 2009 16:24:11 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 16:24:11 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org, bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org, bug-submit-list@donarmstrong.com, 2061@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com, Brent Goodrick To: rms@gnu.org Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Jan 27 17:25:24 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1LRqkT-00059M-6L for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 17:25:13 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:40689 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1LRqjB-0004AW-89 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 11:23:53 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1LRqiv-00044Y-09 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 11:23:37 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1LRqir-00042X-Up for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 11:23:35 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=36773 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1LRqir-00042M-GF for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 11:23:33 -0500 Original-Received: from rzlab.ucr.edu ([138.23.92.77]:36464) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1LRqiq-0007if-OZ for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 11:23:33 -0500 Original-Received: from rzlab.ucr.edu (rzlab.ucr.edu [127.0.0.1]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id n0RGNTVV001034; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 08:23:30 -0800 Original-Received: (from debbugs@localhost) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) id n0RG59pn028907; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 08:05:09 -0800 X-Loop: owner@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com Resent-From: Brent Goodrick Resent-To: bug-submit-list@donarmstrong.com Resent-CC: Emacs Bugs Resent-Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 16:05:09 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: owner@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com X-Emacs-PR-Message: followup 2061 X-Emacs-PR-Package: emacs X-Emacs-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by submit@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com id=B.123307178726455 (code B ref -1); Tue, 27 Jan 2009 16:05:09 +0000 Original-Received: (at submit) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 27 Jan 2009 15:56:27 +0000 X-Spam-Bayes: score:0.5 Bayes not run. spammytokens:Tokens not available. hammytokens:Tokens not available. Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [199.232.76.165]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id n0RFuOVC026444 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 07:56:25 -0800 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1LRqIa-0005pN-4z for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 10:56:24 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1LRqIY-0005p2-A7 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 10:56:23 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=54152 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1LRqIY-0005ow-2X for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 10:56:22 -0500 Original-Received: from rv-out-0708.google.com ([209.85.198.249]:14169) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1LRqIV-00049Z-Ik; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 10:56:19 -0500 Original-Received: by rv-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id k29so7615651rvb.6 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 07:56:17 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:from:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:message-id:date:to:cc :subject:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer; bh=E12mi1m3twdldsYHt2M+EwuNmMI7wP3yXatrMlbdp0M=; b=WRn0DoVXWrZvxt1l2IyX3z2PP0WzEX/iAfWDxlLctD93ZOWQOPQOlziaUW9TaQRLny hMCg5o/HIyojBYuN+mICkzKJed37K/qTOUNWvd9qDyJDxGK8pY/usiNE7hWeZucCorvM 7ZWuHVOwyVvqMhZHB+TCvZl0HIJIUoqmNLpBE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:message-id :date:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer; b=ItnBWVKySDf2QwOjzQE9a8sca4tMtPWPg/MI1Hk3rHOhRnMTHNQe6/mZ9DFJyJsJj3 unJ9xTcOvwM1T7CvZpiMuW/XqPXeZF+KgzI9jN2XM1oMbXiwxSiFx2OYsrI1+HI/K7wH RHt4e0EiZAW9hXBrwOo7eAggGTsXT6/wVV7D0= Original-Received: by 10.141.152.9 with SMTP id e9mr2554735rvo.189.1233071777917; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 07:56:17 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: from hungover.brentg.com.thisisbogus.com ([76.14.208.3]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id k37sm15716864rvb.1.2009.01.27.07.56.16 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Tue, 27 Jan 2009 07:56:17 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: VM viewmail-609 under 23.0.60.1 (x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu) X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-CrossAssassin-Score: 3 X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) Resent-Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 11:23:35 -0500 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:24626 gmane.emacs.pretest.bugs:23791 Archived-At: Richard M Stallman writes: > When would the user ever prefer to load the .elc file after having > modified the .el file? > > If you have written changes which are incomplete and not ready > to be executed. > > This feature gives you control over when to start running your > changes: you control it by when you compile the files. It is > important and it is easy to use. See a new proposal I just emailed to this thread which I think addresses the problem a bit better than just changing the default `load' behavior as I originally suggested. Brent