From: sand@blarg.net
To: Kenichi Handa <handa@m17n.org>
Cc: 613@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org,
sand@blarg.net, bronger@physik.rwth-aachen.de
Subject: bug#613: 23.0.60; Unicode display problems
Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 07:07:13 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <18613.24465.897881.636770__25796.3994438343$1219847666$gmane$org@priss.frightenedpiglet.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <E1KVyOX-0002nz-6S@etlken.m17n.org>
Kenichi Handa writes:
> In article <18604.9770.893099.425147@priss.frightenedpiglet.com>, sand@blarg.net writes:
>
> > Kenichi Handa writes:
> [...]
> > > Now I see what is wrong. Dejavu Sans Mono lacks some of
> > > charaters (#x201C #x2200 #x2500) to be used as `symbol'
> > > font, so the other arbitrary font that contains all of those
> > > characters are selected. This setting was added by the
> > > request in the attached mail, but it seems that the
> > > restriction is too strong for symbol fonts. So, I deleted
> > > that restriction. Please try again with the latest CVS code.
>
> > Removing the symbol restrictions will allow Emacs to pick (incorrect)
> > ISO8859-1 fonts for these characters again. Have you changed
> > something in the C code to prevent that?
>
> Now the entry for symbols is this:
>
> (symbol ,(font-spec :registry "iso10646-1"))
>
> So, at least, Emacs tries to select an iso10646-1 font that
> is closest (in family, style, size) to the default font.
>
I'm seeing a complete regression. I rebuilt from CVS HEAD, confirmed
that your change is in fontset.el, and Emacs picks AR PL ShanHeiSun
for open single quotes. Putting the script definitions back in fixes
the problem. I have pasted "good" and "bad" font log blocks to the
end of this message. Those logs are particularly for Neep Alt, but
the Misc Fixed ISO10646 fonts have the same problem.
Derek
------------------------------ cut here ------------------------------
Successful load of LEFT SINGLE QUOTE with the old definition using
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-08-27 14:07 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-08-02 17:57 bug#613: 23.0.60; Unicode display problems Chong Yidong
2008-08-05 7:25 ` Kenichi Handa
2008-08-05 8:44 ` Torsten Bronger
2008-08-06 5:33 ` Kenichi Handa
2008-08-06 5:56 ` Torsten Bronger
2008-08-13 10:46 ` Kenichi Handa
[not found] ` <E1KTDsR-0007MI-4Y@etlken.m17n.org>
2008-08-18 12:15 ` Kenichi Handa
[not found] ` <E1KV3eR-00070R-MC@etlken.m17n.org>
2008-08-18 12:49 ` Torsten Bronger
[not found] ` <873al2sd2h.fsf@physik.rwth-aachen.de>
2008-08-18 12:59 ` Kenichi Handa
[not found] ` <E1KV4Kl-0007gE-9o@etlken.m17n.org>
2008-08-18 13:52 ` Torsten Bronger
[not found] ` <87od3qqvlg.fsf@physik.rwth-aachen.de>
2008-08-20 1:38 ` Kenichi Handa
[not found] ` <E1KVcf0-0004FY-Gl@etlken.m17n.org>
2008-08-20 14:11 ` sand
2008-08-21 0:51 ` Kenichi Handa
[not found] ` <E1KVyOX-0002nz-6S@etlken.m17n.org>
2008-08-27 14:07 ` sand [this message]
[not found] ` <18613.24465.897881.636770@priss.frightenedpiglet.com>
[not found] ` <E1KYbM8-0002wC-2A@etlken.m17n.org>
2008-08-28 15:16 ` sand
2008-09-01 2:53 ` Kenichi Handa
[not found] ` <E1KZzXw-0006PK-SI@etlken.m17n.org>
2008-09-03 2:34 ` sand
2008-08-20 16:01 ` Torsten Bronger
[not found] ` <87k5ebbrq1.fsf@physik.rwth-aachen.de>
2008-08-21 1:01 ` Kenichi Handa
[not found] ` <E1KVyYk-0002tv-9h@etlken.m17n.org>
2008-08-21 1:18 ` Juanma Barranquero
2008-08-06 6:59 ` Torsten Bronger
2008-08-05 14:14 ` Chong Yidong
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2008-09-02 16:35 Chong Yidong
2008-09-02 19:59 ` Torsten Bronger
2008-09-02 20:06 ` Torsten Bronger
2008-07-26 17:32 Torsten Bronger
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