From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Drew Adams" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#8911: bs-cycle-next deletes window in some cases. Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2011 10:15:24 -0700 Message-ID: <181538AC4C8B4765A99060E0425B9AB5@us.oracle.com> References: <4E009EB0.1050903@gmx.at> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1308679687 27787 80.91.229.12 (21 Jun 2011 18:08:07 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2011 18:08:07 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 8911@debbugs.gnu.org To: "'Juanma Barranquero'" , "'Stefan Monnier'" Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Jun 21 20:08:03 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QZ5Mo-0003XA-8o for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 21 Jun 2011 20:08:02 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:56692 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QZ5Mm-0007CH-Rf for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 21 Jun 2011 14:08:01 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:32964) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QZ4Ya-0000mV-92 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 21 Jun 2011 13:16:09 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QZ4YV-0002Io-KX for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 21 Jun 2011 13:16:08 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:43528) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QZ4YV-0002Ih-6Y for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 21 Jun 2011 13:16:03 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QZ4YU-0002si-Em; Tue, 21 Jun 2011 13:16:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: "Drew Adams" Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-To: owner@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2011 17:16:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 8911 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 8911-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B8911.130867654811045 (code B ref 8911); Tue, 21 Jun 2011 17:16:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 8911) by debbugs.gnu.org; 21 Jun 2011 17:15:48 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QZ4YF-0002s6-SJ for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 21 Jun 2011 13:15:48 -0400 Original-Received: from rcsinet10.oracle.com ([148.87.113.121]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QZ4YD-0002rp-IU for 8911@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 21 Jun 2011 13:15:45 -0400 Original-Received: from rtcsinet22.oracle.com (rtcsinet22.oracle.com [66.248.204.30]) by rcsinet10.oracle.com (Switch-3.4.4/Switch-3.4.2) with ESMTP id p5LHFaeN000325 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Tue, 21 Jun 2011 17:15:38 GMT Original-Received: from acsmt358.oracle.com (acsmt358.oracle.com [141.146.40.158]) by rtcsinet22.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id p5LHFYQZ008976 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 21 Jun 2011 17:15:35 GMT Original-Received: from abhmt016.oracle.com (abhmt016.oracle.com [141.146.116.25]) by acsmt358.oracle.com (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id p5LHFTge010144; Tue, 21 Jun 2011 12:15:29 -0500 Original-Received: from dradamslap1 (/10.159.50.205) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Tue, 21 Jun 2011 10:15:27 -0700 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: Thread-Index: AcwwNbqp53nUoTS6SOut60lCpFTi+gAABy2A X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.6109 X-Source-IP: rtcsinet22.oracle.com [66.248.204.30] X-CT-RefId: str=0001.0A090207.4E00D1BB.005F:SCFSTAT5015188, ss=1, re=-4.000, fgs=0 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list Resent-Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2011 13:16:02 -0400 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:47388 Archived-At: > > I don't follow: why do you think it's a trouble? =A0To me it's = exactly > > what I want. =A0Is it that you prefer it deletes the frame rather = than > > iconify it? >=20 > No, certainly no. >=20 > >> still iconifies the frame. > > What else would you want it to do? >=20 > Nothing, other than a message to the user "Attempt to bury buffer in > dedicated window", or something more friendly but equivalent. >=20 > "burying a buffer" /=3D "iconifying a frame". The fact that the = window > is dedicated does not turn that difference suddenly into an equality. >=20 > Please note a difference between your use of Emacs and mine: I *never* > use multiple frames. FWIW, I typically use multiple frames, and typically with a single = buffer each. Most of my frames are not dedicated, but a few are. Nevertheless, I agree with Juanma here. For my purposes, iconification = would always be wrong as part of the behavior of `bury-buffer'. IIUC, Stefan also uses frames a lot, but he typically (always?) uses (soft-)dedicated windows. And he uses a different OS from me, so = iconification might be less annoying for him. I would like `bury-buffer' to be decoupled from iconification. I would = like `bury-buffer' to do nothing particular wrt dedicated windows. Another caveat: I know little about soft-dedication. Perhaps that makes = a difference to understanding this issue.