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From: "Ilya N. Golubev" <gin@mo.msk.ru>
Cc: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
Subject: bug reports vs manuals [Re: shell completion documentation]
Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2006 02:48:26 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <17odq47mb9.fsf_-_@mo.msk.ru> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <E1GvKXu-0001Z7-Nm@fencepost.gnu.org> (Richard Stallman's message of "Fri, 15 Dec 2006 16:24:46 -0500")

> Bug reports and manuals are not comparable.

Only partially.  After all, they describe the related things, the
incorrect / correct behaviors of some tool.  And to state that the
behavior is incorrect, one has to have a definition of correct
behavior, which is normally supposed to be in documentation.  So bug
report normally relies on documentation.

> details; if they make the
> bug report hard to read, we just have to roll up our sleeves and read
> it anyway.

If something it hard to read, writing it is generally even harder.
And if something is hard to read even for maintainers, how can one
expect user to write that?

> there is no obligation to make the manual so hard to read,

Only in sense of no obligations for this program at all, as described
by C-h C-w.  Still one would normally expect documentation to answer
which behavior is correct and which is not.

> and it would be counterproductive to do so.

What is the alternative?  Not to document the correct behavior once
and forever, perhaps in some appendix, but instead to have users in
every discussion of software, bug reports or other, describe it again
and again.  Do you call this <productive>?


Anyway, for this particular issue, comint commands when
`inhibit-field-text-motion', have already described which behavior is
desired and why.

  reply	other threads:[~2006-12-15 23:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-09-06 20:32 comint loses prompt boundary Ilya N. Golubev
2006-09-06 20:41 ` comint loses prompt boundary in cvs, too Ilya N. Golubev
     [not found] ` <E1GLRDD-0000mS-2D@fencepost.gnu.org>
     [not found]   ` <59ejumjzz2.fsf@mo.msk.ru>
     [not found]     ` <E1GLjTm-0000cp-DO@fencepost.gnu.org>
     [not found]       ` <843bazvd1b.fsf@mo.msk.ru>
     [not found]         ` <comint_field_movement_fix@mo.msk.ru>
2006-12-12 18:07           ` shell completion documentation [Re: comint loses prompt boundary] Ilya N. Golubev
2006-12-12 18:08             ` field movement fix " Ilya N. Golubev
2006-12-15 16:11               ` field movement fix: `NEWS' change Ilya N. Golubev
2006-12-14  5:29             ` shell completion documentation [Re: comint loses prompt boundary] Richard Stallman
2006-12-14 17:51               ` shell completion documentation Ilya N. Golubev
2006-12-15 21:24                 ` Richard Stallman
2006-12-15 23:48                   ` Ilya N. Golubev [this message]
2006-12-16 20:04                 ` Richard Stallman
2006-12-18 19:06                   ` Ilya N. Golubev
2006-12-20 13:00                     ` Richard Stallman
2006-12-20 20:59                       ` what makes read it? [Re: shell completion documentation] Ilya N. Golubev
     [not found]           ` <mailman.1817.1166000505.2155.bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2006-12-13 15:39             ` shell completion documentation [Re: comint loses prompt boundary] Miles Bader
2006-12-13 18:07               ` Ilya N. Golubev
2006-12-14  3:49                 ` Miles Bader
2006-12-15 23:48                   ` comint loses prompt boundary Ilya N. Golubev
2006-08-24 17:15                     ` checking for fields Ilya N. Golubev
2006-08-25 20:25                       ` Richard Stallman
     [not found]                         ` <02473b3c6f4154-gin@mo.msk.ru>
     [not found]                           ` <02473b40868335-gin@mo.msk.ru>
2006-08-28 17:47                             ` Ilya N. Golubev
2006-08-29 11:47                               ` Richard Stallman
2006-08-29 20:30                                 ` pretest downloads [Re: checking for fields] Ilya N. Golubev
2006-08-30 17:58                                   ` Richard Stallman
2006-12-18 15:56                       ` customizing inhibit-field-text-motion [Re: comint loses prompt boundary] Ilya N. Golubev

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