From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Drew Adams Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#24774: 26.0.50; Menu display navigation commands Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2020 14:01:25 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <17ec1774-a258-4f4b-ad29-59a71270f4fe@default> References: <63bb0f8f-86ff-a260-66a1-8a82d4ef6c9e@easy-emacs.de> <87r26bhaze.fsf@mouse.gnus.org> <87h7pml6ds.fsf@gnus.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="26240"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: 24774@debbugs.gnu.org To: Lars Ingebrigtsen , Stefan Kangas Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed Nov 18 23:04:16 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kfVYl-0006hk-W9 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; 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Wed, 18 Nov 2020 22:03:28 +0000 Original-Received: from pps.filterd (aserp3020.oracle.com [127.0.0.1]) by aserp3020.oracle.com (8.16.0.42/8.16.0.42) with SMTP id 0AIM1KhI114415; Wed, 18 Nov 2020 22:01:28 GMT Original-Received: from userv0122.oracle.com (userv0122.oracle.com [156.151.31.75]) by aserp3020.oracle.com with ESMTP id 34umd1554k-1 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=OK); Wed, 18 Nov 2020 22:01:28 +0000 Original-Received: from abhmp0014.oracle.com (abhmp0014.oracle.com [141.146.116.20]) by userv0122.oracle.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id 0AIM1Q7F017455; Wed, 18 Nov 2020 22:01:26 GMT In-Reply-To: <87h7pml6ds.fsf@gnus.org> X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Oracle Beehive Extensions for Outlook 2.0.1.9.1 (1003210) [OL 16.0.5071.0 (x86)] X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=nai engine=6000 definitions=9809 signatures=668682 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 suspectscore=0 mlxscore=0 phishscore=0 spamscore=0 bulkscore=0 mlxlogscore=999 malwarescore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=8.12.0-2009150000 definitions=main-2011180151 X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=nai engine=6000 definitions=9809 signatures=668682 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 suspectscore=0 phishscore=0 adultscore=0 priorityscore=1501 bulkscore=0 clxscore=1011 mlxlogscore=999 malwarescore=0 mlxscore=0 spamscore=0 lowpriorityscore=0 impostorscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=8.12.0-2009150000 definitions=main-2011180150 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:193661 Archived-At: > So rewriting the emacs-lisp menus using easymenu should be > uncontroversial. Really? _Why_ rewrite them? And easy-menu doesn't offer all that an "extended menu item' offers. What would be the point of rewriting to use easy-menu. I actually find easy-menu harder to work with, FWIW. It's too monolithic. Ordinary menu bindings are individual, essentially independent. The easy-menu functions seem too all-or-nothing. (I'm no expert on easy-menu, so some of my view of it might be mistaken. It just seems to me more of a pain than a help, when trying to adapt or adjust some "easy" menu that already exists.) And what on earth does rewriting Elisp menus to use easy-menu have to do with this bug? This sounds like a solution (something you're perhaps more used to) in search of a problem.