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From: martin rudalics <rudalics@gmx.at>
To: Eijiro Sumii <sumii@ecei.tohoku.ac.jp>, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: 36779@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#36779: 25.1; mouse click not recognized for frames with large left position
Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2019 10:59:26 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <17dccaed-e83e-44d7-49bc-8af169dc87d7@gmx.at> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAB0_SiapnWxq9y8GsA6bw4X_uSM-wAWCHFKF9QjY=6aEdgHvSA@mail.gmail.com>

 >>    . We generally avoid naming proprietary products, and instead say
 >>      something like "some proprietary X servers".
 >
 > I gave the (link to) details of the X server (while avoiding to write
 > the product name, though the address includes it, which in fact may be
 > useful when searching the file for the former as long as the case is
 > ignored) since I was asked to do so.  The description "some
 > proprietary X servers" is not factual since (at least) I am not aware
 > of any other X server that exhibits the problem.  I had considered
 > "some proprietary X server" of course but that does not seem to give
 > useful information (if we keep the description vague, what is the
 > purpose of the file?).

I agree with Eijiro and consider his description quite tactful in this
regard.

 >>    . The part that this problem is only known to happen with Emacs
 >>      doesn't seem important (this is, after all, a file that deals
 >>      solely with Emacs-related problems), and I'd omit it.
 >
 > That part is important since, while the manufacturer says the problem
 > is due to a limitation of the X server, it seems to happen only to
 > Emacs, which greatly confused me and is crucial information for
 > possible users in the same situation.

This part could be omitted if we left in the reference to the bug
report.

 >    . I'd prefer not to send the reader to read the bug discussion, and
 >>      instead would tell here the important parts of what was said there
 >>      that clarify the issue (if there are such details there).
 >
 > I linked to this discussion since the "details" are too complex to be
 > summarized in "a few lines" (as I was instructed).  Personally, I wish
 > if other entries in the file also included links to more detailed
 > discussions!

Since I often miss such links too I strongly agree with Eijiro.

 >>    . We usually try to describe some workarounds -- do they exist in
 >>      this case?
 >
 > The workaround is to avoid changing the monitor configuration after
 > the X server has started (or, equivalently, restart the X server every
 > time after such a change), which I believe is already clear from my
 > description.

Still that workaround should be explicitly mentioned.

martin





  reply	other threads:[~2019-08-14  8:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-07-24  4:18 bug#36779: 25.1; mouse click not recognized for frames with large left position Eijiro Sumii
2019-07-24 14:29 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-07-25  4:32   ` Eijiro Sumii
2019-07-25 12:49     ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-07-25 14:13       ` Eijiro Sumii
2019-07-27  1:05         ` Eijiro Sumii
2019-07-27  6:52           ` martin rudalics
2019-07-29  9:20             ` Eijiro Sumii
2019-07-29 15:16               ` martin rudalics
2019-07-30  4:30                 ` Eijiro Sumii
2019-07-30  7:01                   ` martin rudalics
2019-07-30 12:01                     ` Eijiro Sumii
2019-07-30 14:45                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-07-30 15:21                       ` Robert Pluim
2019-07-30 21:27                         ` Eijiro Sumii
2019-08-01  1:27                           ` Eijiro Sumii
2019-07-31  9:12                       ` martin rudalics
2019-07-31  9:38                         ` Eijiro Sumii
2019-08-07  3:07                   ` Eijiro Sumii
2019-08-07 12:04                     ` martin rudalics
2019-08-13  9:09                       ` Eijiro Sumii
2019-08-13 14:26                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-08-14  2:11                           ` Eijiro Sumii
2019-08-14  8:59                             ` martin rudalics [this message]
2019-08-14 10:01                               ` Eijiro Sumii
2019-08-15  8:11                                 ` martin rudalics
2019-08-15 15:07                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-08-16  7:33                                     ` Eijiro Sumii
2019-08-16  8:20                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-08-16  8:43                                         ` Eijiro Sumii
2019-08-16 12:49                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-08-16 13:03                                             ` Eijiro Sumii
2019-08-16 14:09                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-08-16 21:09                                                 ` Eijiro Sumii
2019-08-17  6:23                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-08-17  7:37                                                     ` Eijiro Sumii
2020-08-26  0:15                                   ` Stefan Kangas
2020-08-26  6:10                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-08-26  6:19                                       ` Eijiro Sumii
2020-08-26  6:35                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-08-26  7:40                                           ` Eijiro Sumii
2020-08-26  8:00                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-08-27  9:36                                       ` Stefan Kangas
2020-08-27  9:45                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-08-27 10:08                                           ` Stefan Kangas

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