From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Mike Kupfer Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#22043: 25.0.50; search-forward and char folding Date: Sun, 29 Nov 2015 11:03:32 -0800 Message-ID: <17193.1448823812@allegro.localdomain> References: <15605.1448748702@allegro.localdomain> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1448823861 30857 80.91.229.3 (29 Nov 2015 19:04:21 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 29 Nov 2015 19:04:21 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 22043@debbugs.gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Nov 29 20:04:08 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1a37GZ-0002ih-JH for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 29 Nov 2015 20:04:07 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:37394 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1a37Gd-0006iQ-B3 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 29 Nov 2015 14:04:11 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:38127) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1a37GZ-0006iJ-Lo for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 29 Nov 2015 14:04:08 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1a37GU-0006aq-Mf for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 29 Nov 2015 14:04:07 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.43]:41774) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1a37GU-0006al-JR for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 29 Nov 2015 14:04:02 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1a37GU-0002ui-6k for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 29 Nov 2015 14:04:02 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Mike Kupfer Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 29 Nov 2015 19:04:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 22043 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 22043-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B22043.144882381711170 (code B ref 22043); Sun, 29 Nov 2015 19:04:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 22043) by debbugs.gnu.org; 29 Nov 2015 19:03:37 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:59715 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1a37G4-0002u5-Qf for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 29 Nov 2015 14:03:37 -0500 Original-Received: from shell1.rawbw.com ([198.144.192.42]:10043) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1a37G3-0002tw-2K for 22043@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 29 Nov 2015 14:03:36 -0500 Original-Received: from allegro.localdomain (m208-249.dsl.rawbw.com [198.144.208.249]) by shell1.rawbw.com (8.15.1/8.15.1) with ESMTP id tATJ3XCq016774; Sun, 29 Nov 2015 11:03:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from m.kupfer@acm.org) X-Authentication-Warning: shell1.rawbw.com: Host m208-249.dsl.rawbw.com [198.144.208.249] claimed to be allegro.localdomain In-Reply-To: Your message of "Sun, 29 Nov 2015 18:32:41 +0200." <83io4kojfa.fsf@gnu.org> X-Mailer: MH-E 8.6+mdk01; nmh 1.6; GNU Emacs 24.5.2 Content-ID: <17192.1448823812.1@allegro.localdomain> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 208.118.235.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:109411 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii wrote: > > From: Mike Kupfer > > The "Lax Search" Info node says > > > > Searches in Emacs by default perform character folding > > > > But I don't see search-forward or search-backward doing that. [...] > The Emacs manual doesn't advertise search-forward and search-backward, [...] > "C-s RET" doesn't invoke search-forward, at least not by default, > haven't been doing that for quite some time. I fixed that inaccuracy > now, thanks for pointing it out. I took a look at your changes, and I agree that they make things clearer. Thanks. The text in "Lax Search" now says Search commands in Emacs by default perform character folding But search-forward can be found using M-x apropos, and it is listed as being a command. So I think the text in the "Lax Search" node still needs work. Would something like the following be acceptable? The search commands that are described in "Incremental Search" and "Nonincremental Search" perform character folding by default, thus matching equivalent character sequences. If that's no good, an alternative might be to say that "Some search commands ... perform character folding", and to add a note along the lines of To determine whether character folding applies to a particular search command, see the Help text for that command. regards, mike