From: Dmitry Gutov <dgutov@yandex.ru>
To: rms@gnu.org, Stefan Kangas <stefan@marxist.se>
Cc: 46627@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#46627: [PATCH] Add new help command 'describe-command'
Date: Sat, 27 Feb 2021 20:58:21 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <16fa7034-ece7-3290-31fe-cac2f603c979@yandex.ru> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <E1lE4d3-0006zC-2W@fencepost.gnu.org>
On 22.02.2021 08:23, Richard Stallman wrote:
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> > To me, it certainly sounds more complicated to learn, and harder to use,
> > than just having two separate commands. If your concern is complexity,
> > the above is the more complex UI.
>
> I am astounded by the way you see it.
> I did not expect to encounter disagreement on this point.
>
> It seems that you are equally astounded.
>
> I will explain why I see it the way I do.
>
> > - `C-h f' for any function
> > - `C-h x' for commands
>
> This is yet one more specific command one needs to remember. For a
> beginner, or even a not-quite-beginner, learning hundreds of other
> commands is the hard part. And it is easy to forget them.
I sympathize with reluctance to add new commands, especially when one is
very similar to an existing one.
> By contrast, what TAB TAB TAB... does inside completion for commands
> is a general feature, not similar to any other.
>
> Users will forget commands that they learned, but I think they will
> hardly forget this.
...but making a general feature (and completion-at-point is a general
interface which we use in many context) more complex can be much worse.
TAB and 'TAB TAB' already do different things. Now, what happens if a
third 'TAB' will switch the completion tale? The user will have to count
how many times they pressed TAB now. Did I press it one or twice? If
once, next press will pop up the Completions buffer, if two: switch to
another completion table. What if I press TAB 4 times, what will happen?
Or ok, I pressed TAB a few times, but forgot to count. Which completion
table is it using now?
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2021-02-27 18:58 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 86+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2021-02-19 1:06 bug#46627: [PATCH] Add new help command 'describe-command' Stefan Kangas
2021-02-19 8:42 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-19 17:42 ` Stefan Kangas
2021-02-19 18:38 ` bug#46627: [External] : " Drew Adams
2021-02-20 3:25 ` Stefan Kangas
2021-02-20 4:25 ` Drew Adams
2021-02-20 8:20 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-20 7:44 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-19 20:05 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-20 4:10 ` Stefan Kangas
2021-02-20 8:18 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-20 17:10 ` Stefan Kangas
2021-02-21 13:08 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-22 15:58 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-04-28 13:58 ` Stefan Kangas
2021-04-28 14:17 ` Stefan Kangas
2021-05-02 13:14 ` Stefan Kangas
2021-02-20 12:56 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-20 12:59 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-20 16:16 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-20 14:04 ` Stefan Kangas
2021-02-20 16:06 ` Richard Stallman
2021-02-20 16:09 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-20 20:06 ` bug#46627: [External] : " Drew Adams
2021-02-20 20:17 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-20 20:54 ` Drew Adams
2021-02-20 16:39 ` Stefan Kangas
2021-02-20 16:49 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-20 20:35 ` bug#46627: [External] : " Drew Adams
2021-02-20 20:46 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-20 21:16 ` Drew Adams
2021-02-21 15:07 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-21 17:55 ` Drew Adams
2021-02-21 18:11 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-21 18:30 ` Drew Adams
2021-02-26 21:34 ` Drew Adams
2021-02-27 8:04 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-27 17:46 ` Drew Adams
2021-02-21 6:19 ` Richard Stallman
2021-02-21 7:18 ` Stefan Kangas
2021-02-21 15:27 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-21 16:39 ` Howard Melman
2021-02-21 18:01 ` bug#46627: [External] : " Drew Adams
2021-02-21 17:01 ` Stefan Kangas
2021-02-21 17:36 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-21 18:02 ` Stefan Kangas
2021-02-21 18:21 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-21 19:57 ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-02-21 20:13 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-21 23:46 ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-02-22 15:18 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-27 20:38 ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-02-28 17:27 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-28 21:40 ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-03-01 6:05 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-03-02 1:40 ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-03-02 5:31 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-03-02 12:55 ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-03-02 13:47 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-21 17:57 ` bug#46627: [External] : " Drew Adams
2021-02-21 17:33 ` Drew Adams
2021-02-21 13:06 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-21 6:27 ` Richard Stallman
2021-02-21 6:10 ` Richard Stallman
2021-02-21 6:27 ` Richard Stallman
2021-02-19 13:12 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-19 18:27 ` bug#46627: [External] : " Drew Adams
2021-02-19 18:43 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-21 6:18 ` Richard Stallman
2021-02-21 6:27 ` Richard Stallman
2021-02-20 6:56 ` Richard Stallman
2021-02-20 7:14 ` Stefan Kangas
2021-02-21 6:19 ` Richard Stallman
2021-02-21 6:27 ` Richard Stallman
2021-02-21 7:17 ` Stefan Kangas
2021-02-22 6:23 ` Richard Stallman
2021-02-24 3:28 ` Stefan Kangas
2021-02-27 18:58 ` Dmitry Gutov [this message]
2021-03-01 5:18 ` Richard Stallman
2021-03-01 16:13 ` bug#46627: [External] : " Drew Adams
2021-03-02 6:29 ` Richard Stallman
2021-03-02 6:50 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-03-03 5:55 ` Richard Stallman
2021-03-03 15:26 ` Drew Adams
2021-03-03 16:14 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-03-02 16:52 ` Drew Adams
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