From: Random832 <random832@fastmail.com>
To: Alan Third <alan@idiocy.org>
Cc: 22392@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#22392: 25.0.50; NS Emacs run from OS X GUI doesn't set locale
Date: Mon, 18 Jan 2016 17:09:02 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1453154942.1231266.495690338.5BC96C7B@webmail.messagingengine.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <m2bn8itww0.fsf@galloway.idiocy.org>
On Mon, Jan 18, 2016, at 16:12, Alan Third wrote:
> I don't know if it's appropriate for OS X, but I'm pretty sure it
> matches the codings that the Windows port gives me for en_GB (ENG, in
> Windows). Besides, surely it's better than 'nil'?
Well, I don't have any trouble opening UTF-8 files. I'm incidentally not
sure that it's really appropriate for windows, either - there, it should
be using windows-1252, not iso-latin-1. I have to wonder how Emacs
behaves on versions of windows whose default codepage is not a trivial
superset of an ISO one. The proper encoding should be able to be
determined by the GetACP function, and should always be a windows
codepage.
> > How does Terminal (and iTerm) know to use UTF-8?
>
> If you load Emacs on OS X from the terminal this code changes some
> settings (set-locale-environment in mule-cmds.el):
I meant Terminal itself, not Emacs within terminal. For me, it seems to
put LANG=en_US.UTF-8 in the environment.
> The other possibility is that Terminal.app sets LANG to 'en_GB.UTF-8'.
> That final part may be the difference we're seeing here?
Yes, I think so. I was wondering also if there's some hidden setting
that tells Terminal whether to use UTF-8 or not - I don't think it used
it in the earliest versions of OSX.
> > This one also makes me wonder if the encoding specified in
> > .CFUserTextEncoding/__CF_USER_TEXT_ENCODING should be used for a second
> > choice. Which may be an encoding that may not map directly to a locale.
>
> I'm afriad I don't know what you're talking about here.
You may have a file .CFUserTextEncoding in your home directory, or an
environment variable __CF_USER_TEXT_ENCODING, specifying a value like
[0x1F5:]0x0:0x0 - the first one (in the environment variable only) is
your user ID, the next is the encoding (0x0 for MacRoman) which Finder
uses for preview of non-UTF8 text files, and the last is the language (0
for English, maybe only US English)
For me this is MacRoman (and works as I described with Finder preview
windows) even though there is no actual Unix locale for MacRoman.
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[not found] <m27fix2thu.fsf@galloway.idiocy.org>
2016-01-26 7:11 ` bug#22392: Emacs OS X GUI doesn't set locale Anders Lindgren
[not found] ` <CABr8ebazqBT5tVtRc_bDj0x72gR52T=zAmmamyhkTB8e4pz6rg@mail.gmail.com>
2016-01-26 14:44 ` Eli Zaretskii
[not found] ` <83twm01ju1.fsf@gnu.org>
2016-01-26 15:06 ` Anders Lindgren
[not found] ` <CABr8ebbTc1no_vra4m2Q6sbC=VqaZ4Xn8OGnQu78Z=uquKpGRA@mail.gmail.com>
2016-01-26 15:14 ` Eli Zaretskii
[not found] ` <83lh7c1igo.fsf@gnu.org>
2016-01-26 16:58 ` Anders Lindgren
2016-01-26 23:05 ` Alan Third
[not found] ` <m2bn880wna.fsf@galloway.idiocy.org>
2016-01-27 18:06 ` Paul Eggert
2016-01-17 14:27 ` bug#22392: 25.0.50; NS Emacs run from " Alan Third
2016-01-17 22:38 ` Random832
2016-01-18 21:12 ` Alan Third
2016-01-18 22:09 ` Random832 [this message]
2016-01-18 23:11 ` Alan Third
2016-01-19 15:55 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-01-19 16:03 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-01-30 6:13 ` bug#22392: Emacs " Random832
2016-02-05 7:12 ` Random832
2016-02-05 7:32 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-05 7:36 ` Random832
2016-02-05 9:21 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-05 17:28 ` Random832
2016-02-05 19:46 ` Eli Zaretskii
[not found] ` <56A90735.7090508@cs.ucla.edu>
2016-01-27 19:44 ` Eli Zaretskii
[not found] ` <83fuxizu1d.fsf@gnu.org>
2016-01-27 22:27 ` Paul Eggert
2016-01-28 22:53 ` Alan Third
[not found] ` <m260ydxqmp.fsf@galloway.idiocy.org>
2016-02-01 5:03 ` Anders Lindgren
[not found] ` <CABr8ebZ21MwYwDTeHogk4Afg7m73LGiiiVWNz2y=tJ0SSSsysQ@mail.gmail.com>
2016-02-01 17:48 ` Alan Third
2016-02-01 18:57 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-10 23:57 ` Alan Third
2016-02-11 2:37 ` Paul Eggert
2016-01-26 22:50 ` Alan Third
[not found] ` <m2fuxk0xbz.fsf@galloway.idiocy.org>
2016-01-27 6:21 ` Anders Lindgren
[not found] ` <CABr8ebb55SEwE2MOnKdSYm=xO6VReRU8g_dr0vN4CGMVwVYrvg@mail.gmail.com>
2016-01-27 15:53 ` Eli Zaretskii
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