From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Drew Adams" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#6693: 24.0.50; font-lock-(builtin|doc) faces are *way* too close Date: Sun, 3 Jul 2011 07:34:03 -0700 Message-ID: <13C511D445304C4C94EE650D4796ECD0@us.oracle.com> References: <05CB9D294C4646D5A2F574AB5A9DFA55@us.oracle.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1309703730 2290 80.91.229.12 (3 Jul 2011 14:35:30 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 3 Jul 2011 14:35:30 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 6693@debbugs.gnu.org To: "'Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen'" Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Jul 03 16:35:26 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QdNle-0005o6-6f for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 03 Jul 2011 16:35:26 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:49829 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QdNlc-00075F-Sf for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 03 Jul 2011 10:35:25 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:54822) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QdNlI-00073d-J3 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 03 Jul 2011 10:35:06 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QdNlG-00089T-Vm for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 03 Jul 2011 10:35:04 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:59977) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QdNlG-00088T-He for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 03 Jul 2011 10:35:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QdNlF-0000Mt-MJ; Sun, 03 Jul 2011 10:35:01 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: "Drew Adams" Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-To: owner@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 03 Jul 2011 14:35:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 6693 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 6693-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B6693.13097036701373 (code B ref 6693); Sun, 03 Jul 2011 14:35:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 6693) by debbugs.gnu.org; 3 Jul 2011 14:34:30 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QdNkj-0000M6-QH for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 03 Jul 2011 10:34:30 -0400 Original-Received: from acsinet15.oracle.com ([141.146.126.227]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QdNki-0000Lu-9z for 6693@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 03 Jul 2011 10:34:28 -0400 Original-Received: from acsinet21.oracle.com (acsinet21.oracle.com [141.146.126.237]) by acsinet15.oracle.com (Switch-3.4.4/Switch-3.4.4) with ESMTP id p63EYKCO029624 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Sun, 3 Jul 2011 14:34:22 GMT Original-Received: from acsmt356.oracle.com (acsmt356.oracle.com [141.146.40.156]) by acsinet21.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id p63EYKZ4001392 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sun, 3 Jul 2011 14:34:20 GMT Original-Received: from abhmt111.oracle.com (abhmt111.oracle.com [141.146.116.63]) by acsmt356.oracle.com (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id p63EYEju004023; Sun, 3 Jul 2011 09:34:14 -0500 Original-Received: from dradamslap1 (/10.159.33.69) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Sun, 03 Jul 2011 07:34:14 -0700 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: Thread-Index: Acw5ipVMLDvRJZn4REeDX3TjLS2i4wAAktZw X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.6109 X-Source-IP: acsinet21.oracle.com [141.146.126.237] X-Auth-Type: Internal IP X-CT-RefId: str=0001.0A090203.4E107DEE.00D5:SCFMA922111,ss=1,re=-4.000,fgs=0 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list Resent-Date: Sun, 03 Jul 2011 10:35:01 -0400 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:47835 Archived-At: > The commit message for the change from Orchid to MediumOrchid4 is: > > + 2009-08-02 Chong Yidong > ... Darken the colors for light backgrounds. > > So presumably some people had difficulty reading Orchid on light > backgrounds? Yes, I'm familiar with that commit. I disagree that it represents an improvement, which is why I filed the bug report. > Perhaps a different colour could be used in your use case that would > still be legible, but separate the doc string from the keywords. > Do you have a suggestion? I suggest "Orchid", as before. But I would probably be OK with any other solution that distinguishes these two faces better without introducing other such clashes. And this is _not_ about my use case. This is about the Emacs default, -Q, case, as expressed in the bug report, which starts with "emacs -Q". Personally, I use a very different color scheme - this has nothing to do with my use case. Just _look_ at the colors, using emacs -Q. Do the same in an older release also, to compare. You should be able to see the problem clearly.