* bug#19064: bug#17272: bug#19064: bug#17272: bug#19064: bug#17272: bug#19064: 25.0.50; `message' overwrites `y-or-n-p' prompt, so user misses it
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@ 2019-11-22 17:38 ` Drew Adams
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From: Drew Adams @ 2019-11-22 17:38 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Eli Zaretskii, Juri Linkov
Cc: michael_heerdegen, larsi, 17272, joaotavora, 19064
> > All experienced Emacs users have enable-recursive-minibuffers enabled
>
> I don't, FWIW. So please don't build any revolutionary UI changes on
> that wrong assumption.
+1.
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* bug#19064: bug#17272: bug#19064: bug#17272: bug#19064: bug#17272: bug#19064: 25.0.50; `message' overwrites `y-or-n-p' prompt, so user misses it
2019-11-23 19:14 ` Eli Zaretskii
@ 2019-11-26 23:18 ` Juri Linkov
2019-11-27 0:46 ` Drew Adams
0 siblings, 1 reply; 3+ messages in thread
From: Juri Linkov @ 2019-11-26 23:18 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Eli Zaretskii; +Cc: michael_heerdegen, larsi, 19064, 17272, joaotavora
>> > I don't, FWIW. So please don't build any revolutionary UI changes on
>> > that wrong assumption.
>>
>> But do you agree that answering yes/no questions should be allowed anytime
>> regardless of the value of enable-recursive-minibuffers?
>
> Yes, I think so.
So I installed the patch that allows it.
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* bug#19064: bug#17272: bug#19064: bug#17272: bug#19064: bug#17272: bug#19064: 25.0.50; `message' overwrites `y-or-n-p' prompt, so user misses it
2019-11-26 23:18 ` bug#19064: " Juri Linkov
@ 2019-11-27 0:46 ` Drew Adams
0 siblings, 0 replies; 3+ messages in thread
From: Drew Adams @ 2019-11-27 0:46 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Juri Linkov, Eli Zaretskii
Cc: michael_heerdegen, larsi, 17272, joaotavora, 19064
> So I installed the patch that allows it.
FWIW and FTR, as the filer of bug #19064,
and as I expressed several times in this
thread, I strongly object to the changes
that have now been made. All of what I said
has been ignored. Unfortunate.
This is not at all a good fix for the problem
reported. And it imposes a very bad behavior
more generally - beyond the problem cited.
`message' and `minibuffer-message', i.e.,
writing to the echo area and to the minibuffer,
both have their uses when the minibuffer is
active.
And `y-or-n-p' should continue to use `read-key',
not the minibuffer.
And `enable-recursive-minibuffers' should not
be turned on automatically by `yes-or-no-p'.
Instead, if the function calling `yes-or-no-p'
has not turned it on then an error should be
raised when `yes-or-no-p' tries to use the
minibuffer.
I'm not aware of any part of this "fix" that's
acceptable.
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2019-11-13 23:24 ` bug#17272: bug#19064: bug#17272: " Drew Adams
2019-11-14 15:46 ` Michael Heerdegen
2019-11-14 16:28 ` bug#17272: " Drew Adams
2019-11-14 17:06 ` Michael Heerdegen
2019-11-14 17:17 ` Drew Adams
2019-11-14 20:29 ` Michael Heerdegen
2019-11-16 20:53 ` Juri Linkov
2019-11-17 5:52 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-11-17 21:59 ` bug#17272: " Juri Linkov
2019-11-18 21:10 ` Juri Linkov
2019-11-19 8:13 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-11-19 11:11 ` bug#19064: " João Távora
2019-11-19 22:39 ` bug#17272: " Juri Linkov
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2019-11-20 22:10 ` Juri Linkov
2019-11-20 23:44 ` João Távora
2019-11-21 21:39 ` Juri Linkov
2019-11-22 7:48 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-11-23 19:02 ` Juri Linkov
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