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Sun, 26 Sep 2021 11:10:15 +0200 In-Reply-To: Content-Language: en-US X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:nLDOJxiwgyOsbZBGUEVWA/NlEJ5/oXg5O3goA0CrhbBvxeYgtPK OXYJRR2G9KQ+CGNNNzyNZREMDFMa5nDIAYS0QizK5DUoT/NxgDZN1K8npx+ONHCt5n/6Blf C08XUcz3jbrrcNCqPld8wX+8sZR3OjZuU08T2jBiSx2Xedy9mraKw6YgG0bziOFnHFCXyCv Grl2NDaZEhrJOtJd+QNqg== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:rqNff+yHfUM=:NvxiN1cSEH5L/I7I9QIryh hikrGG3MQTRvVMeBa2CLaTxvAC7jVMqzI4erEWukga00AAiQ+1XrONbTg2dUoVSx72IHZtRV0 M9gGWPQ8+GICM4Y9HEGJWYLq6LhTcKYr9zPeYn0S5xzjj0yTf+qzPwJakGbk2ZUCl7xPYvBMb q1y7UGYdumn+QCJsg6x9ue5PkODvryUJQdaM09MRsBBV/69BjUkXI+n0jjV70sKNq4ejIqcu/ RgjQ1SkPETjuXNbfQaccl7L10ej8isbat8/xVqi8PtMyWxZ5nBLC8QPp0EbFWOGJr9whrQsaF VonE7oFHhp+LSkPlTmhPPzQ8XM1iuyw8700NDy+v0YGAvsB9DNSxq0ZvJ+ZC4+yiKaHdKs8Ud JvCo+oZHfzv0LeMniMKkc4qQBGQwePMEKkmc8hJy2CphWaSi5o2DSF2q2Hje/699PYPFX+XXP fBqflXvX9rmhUaASOJF96fM+uEYOZVkGT7TEOrdYWHeE6eu7u2IkWYZMGir8yAdfNPo3FiInp +hFMkJV69fu0HZ5yTVEnBGcT/1IuCXEOKGMfcQgYyXbLpV2ohW5OiHOrRbkydw/HmNWXkaeGe rCtivUaAhUVsg1OivC31se759ueoBdhIM5Hfrp3uS35T2pczoTSkDMpjTSsfmvhDOJcisr4KW +hO4tfUEWVB5vHFjoMxkhcdTMDSbZLSRtH2h3/eJ/rLEw5jqEmRbNSCVQGzj6BSDXbZ82x2C7 f2R/+XH7lUIRxEb0SpWUbuWjari5FyrEbqJyUPNxj8Q2qA8EkPR4/zOny1MJLclaZvMP0Kui X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:215580 Archived-At: >> I just did C-h f whitespace-display-window, from there went to that >> function's source and added a doc-string for it. Displaying the source >> in the help window would have been merely distracting in this scenario. >> > Ok, but that is diferrent usage scenario :). You are completely changing > requirement there. What you describe is indeed more handy when you wish to hack > a function. But when you do not wish to hack it, but would like to see what it > does, but stay in the same buffer you were edited, than what you describe would > be nuissance and distraction. The point I wanted to make was that there may be tenths of different usage scenarios for perusing the *Help* window and its buffer. > Also, consider again, people new to Emacs. Having source auto shown to them, > makes them probably more akin to see what is going on, how things work and give > more incitament to explore. I think. There are two major sources of disappointments here - many users are not proficient in C and often the function they will look up first is only a stub for the function doing the actual work. martin