From: "Mattias Engdegård" <mattiase@acm.org>
To: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org>
Cc: 46621@debbugs.gnu.org, "Simen Heggestøyl" <simenheg@runbox.com>,
"Juri Linkov" <juri@linkov.net>
Subject: bug#46621: Copy line
Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2022 18:35:17 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1214B95A-A75B-4840-AD68-E962D3610B47@acm.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87czezwgn8.fsf@gnus.org>
23 juni 2022 kl. 17.20 skrev Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org>:
> I think that means that it might make sense to keep the command as is
> (point movement wise). I.e., if we move point to the duplicated line,
> then hitting `H-y' a whole bunch of times would leave point at the final
> line.
Right. Again, it is slightly more consistent to have it duplicate "below" than "above" so I weakly favour this way of working, but don't take my word for it -- try it out in anger.
> If we decide to move to the duplicated line, but keep the same column --
> then that makes no sense in a region-sensitive context at all. If you
> mark a word and hit `H-y', then there's no way to keep the "current
> column".
That's unavoidable because Emacs's region concept prevents the cursor from moving independently of the selection. (Same goes for most other modern editors although they use a slightly different selection paradigm.)
In no way does this diminish the utility of the command in either of its modes of usage.
> It makes no sense to mash up these two totally different
> things into one command, and people do complain about commands that make
> no sense.
But the semantics do make sense -- let's not look for problems that don't exist. It's like `upcase-dwim`: without an active region it acts on the current word, which is the most practical unit for that operation.
If it helps, call the new command `duplicate-dwim` or just `duplicate`. The user who only uses it to duplicate lines is unlikely to be disturbed by its other ways of functioning.
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Thread overview: 117+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2021-02-18 19:07 bug#46621: Copy line Juri Linkov
2021-02-18 19:30 ` bug#46621: [External] : " Drew Adams
2021-02-20 6:58 ` Richard Stallman
2021-02-19 13:09 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-19 20:27 ` Daniel Martín via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2021-02-20 6:54 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-20 13:05 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-20 13:12 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-20 13:18 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-20 14:15 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-20 14:35 ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-02-20 13:03 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-20 18:28 ` Juri Linkov
2021-02-21 6:16 ` Richard Stallman
2021-02-21 6:21 ` Richard Stallman
2021-02-21 8:54 ` Juri Linkov
2021-02-21 10:41 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-21 13:12 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-21 13:19 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-21 15:51 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-21 17:06 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-21 17:39 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-21 18:00 ` bug#46621: [External] : " Drew Adams
2021-02-21 17:45 ` Drew Adams
2021-02-22 6:22 ` Richard Stallman
2021-02-21 17:41 ` bug#46621: [External] : " Drew Adams
2021-02-21 20:37 ` Juri Linkov
2021-02-21 22:06 ` bug#46621: [External] : " Drew Adams
2021-02-22 15:45 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-21 23:04 ` Howard Melman
2021-02-22 6:23 ` Richard Stallman
2021-02-22 9:07 ` Juri Linkov
2021-02-22 15:43 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-22 16:28 ` Helmut Eller
2021-02-22 16:58 ` Andreas Schwab
2021-02-22 18:32 ` Helmut Eller
2021-02-22 19:41 ` Howard Melman
2021-02-22 19:46 ` bug#46621: [External] : " Drew Adams
2021-02-23 19:29 ` Dmitry Gutov
2022-06-28 14:28 ` Drew Adams
2021-02-22 17:08 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-22 18:42 ` Helmut Eller
2021-02-22 17:04 ` Gregory Heytings
2021-02-22 17:16 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-22 17:54 ` Gregory Heytings
2021-02-22 20:51 ` Stephen Berman
2021-02-21 13:13 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-06-17 17:34 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-06-18 9:32 ` Simen Heggestøyl
2022-06-20 18:28 ` Richard Stallman
2022-06-18 18:02 ` Mattias Engdegård
2022-06-18 18:09 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-06-19 15:02 ` Mattias Engdegård
2022-07-03 17:21 ` Mattias Engdegård
2022-07-04 3:24 ` Pankaj Jangid
2022-07-05 16:02 ` Mattias Engdegård
2022-07-05 16:52 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-07-05 20:19 ` Mattias Engdegård
2022-06-19 11:43 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-06-19 15:20 ` Mattias Engdegård
2022-06-19 15:22 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-06-20 9:26 ` Mattias Engdegård
2022-06-21 10:35 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-06-21 11:13 ` Mattias Engdegård
2022-06-22 4:11 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-06-21 17:41 ` Juri Linkov
2022-06-22 4:07 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-06-22 7:28 ` Juri Linkov
2022-06-22 7:54 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-06-22 17:21 ` Pankaj Jangid
2022-06-22 18:24 ` Juri Linkov
2022-06-22 18:45 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-06-23 7:49 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-06-23 8:08 ` Pankaj Jangid
2022-06-23 8:17 ` Andreas Schwab
2022-06-23 9:05 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-07-06 17:34 ` Juri Linkov
2022-07-07 7:58 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-07-07 16:45 ` Juri Linkov
2022-07-07 18:03 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-07-07 18:20 ` Juri Linkov
2022-07-07 18:24 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-07-08 17:10 ` Juri Linkov
2022-07-10 12:57 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-07-14 17:16 ` Juri Linkov
2022-07-14 17:47 ` Andreas Schwab
2022-07-14 19:30 ` Juri Linkov
2022-06-23 9:22 ` Robert Pluim
2022-06-23 11:16 ` Pankaj Jangid
2022-06-23 11:34 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-06-23 9:04 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-06-23 11:12 ` Pankaj Jangid
2022-06-23 15:10 ` Mattias Engdegård
2022-06-23 15:20 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-06-25 16:35 ` Mattias Engdegård [this message]
2022-06-23 17:35 ` Juri Linkov
2022-06-23 17:49 ` Drew Adams
2022-06-25 16:51 ` Mattias Engdegård
2022-06-25 17:48 ` Drew Adams
2022-06-27 19:40 ` Juri Linkov
2022-06-28 8:41 ` Mattias Engdegård
2022-06-28 12:10 ` Helmut Eller
2022-06-22 14:10 ` Drew Adams
2022-06-22 17:27 ` Pankaj Jangid
2022-06-22 20:44 ` Sean Whitton
2022-06-22 20:50 ` Drew Adams
2022-06-23 15:47 ` Helmut Eller
2022-06-23 16:07 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-06-23 17:46 ` Drew Adams
2022-06-23 5:47 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-06-23 17:00 ` Sean Whitton
2022-06-23 17:37 ` Sean Whitton
2022-06-23 18:31 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-06-30 16:31 ` Sean Whitton
2022-07-01 9:27 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-07-01 16:34 ` Sean Whitton
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2022-06-18 12:56 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
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