From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Drew Adams Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#24897: 24.5; doc for `M' in Dired Date: Mon, 7 Nov 2016 11:28:52 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <106ca6bc-ecf5-439f-853b-63331a41d4b8@default> References: <> <<83shr3gkn1.fsf@gnu.org>> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1478547039 27599 195.159.176.226 (7 Nov 2016 19:30:39 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 7 Nov 2016 19:30:39 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 24897@debbugs.gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii , Drew Adams Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Nov 07 20:30:34 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1c3pcQ-0003oJ-2u for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 07 Nov 2016 20:30:10 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:56148 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1c3pcT-0002Hh-3B for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 07 Nov 2016 14:30:13 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:52553) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1c3pcN-0002Gm-Nw for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 07 Nov 2016 14:30:08 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1c3pcI-0001Wo-SH for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 07 Nov 2016 14:30:07 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.43]:33287) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1c3pcI-0001WU-PJ for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 07 Nov 2016 14:30:02 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1c3pcI-0004fs-GU for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 07 Nov 2016 14:30:02 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Drew Adams Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 07 Nov 2016 19:30:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 24897 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 24897-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B24897.147854694317863 (code B ref 24897); Mon, 07 Nov 2016 19:30:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 24897) by debbugs.gnu.org; 7 Nov 2016 19:29:03 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:48686 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1c3pbL-0004e3-Co for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 07 Nov 2016 14:29:03 -0500 Original-Received: from aserp1040.oracle.com ([141.146.126.69]:33484) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1c3pbJ-0004dX-14 for 24897@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 07 Nov 2016 14:29:01 -0500 Original-Received: from userv0022.oracle.com (userv0022.oracle.com [156.151.31.74]) by aserp1040.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2/Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2) with ESMTP id uA7JSsZk024306 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=OK); Mon, 7 Nov 2016 19:28:54 GMT Original-Received: from userv0121.oracle.com (userv0121.oracle.com [156.151.31.72]) by userv0022.oracle.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id uA7JSrau005497 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=OK); Mon, 7 Nov 2016 19:28:54 GMT Original-Received: from abhmp0001.oracle.com (abhmp0001.oracle.com [141.146.116.7]) by userv0121.oracle.com (8.14.4/8.13.8) with ESMTP id uA7JSr4n001112; Mon, 7 Nov 2016 19:28:53 GMT In-Reply-To: <<83shr3gkn1.fsf@gnu.org>> X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Oracle Beehive Extensions for Outlook 2.0.1.9.1 (1003210) [OL 12.0.6753.5000 (x86)] X-Source-IP: userv0022.oracle.com [156.151.31.74] X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 208.118.235.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:125437 Archived-At: > Since the original question was about "making the file read-only", > I'm guessing the OP is on Windows, That the user might be on Windows is a good guess. Or s?he could just be a beginner wrt UNIX (or GNU/Linux). > and if that is so, explaining the > Unix-style permission bits won't help a bit. True enough for r and x, but not for w. It is reasonable for a user on Windows to use `M' to make files read-only or writable. A little bit more help from the doc for such users could help, I think.