From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Drew Adams" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#13041: 24.2; diacritic-fold-search Date: Sat, 8 Dec 2012 16:14:28 -0800 Message-ID: <104BC54C3EC34891820EDBAB804A380E@us.oracle.com> References: <20121130182205.C722F14B8D@panix1.panix.com><87ip8fjzwn.fsf@gnu.org> <871uf2647i.fsf@mail.jurta.org><50C1C6CC.9020103@gmx.at> <87ehj18l9p.fsf@mail.jurta.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1355012148 14791 80.91.229.3 (9 Dec 2012 00:15:48 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 9 Dec 2012 00:15:48 +0000 (UTC) Cc: perin@panix.com, 13041@debbugs.gnu.org, perin@acm.org To: "'Stefan Monnier'" , "'Juri Linkov'" Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Dec 09 01:16:00 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ThUYh-0002QR-VA for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 09 Dec 2012 01:15:52 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:57180 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ThUYV-0001Nm-Hf for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 08 Dec 2012 19:15:39 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:50461) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ThUYS-0001NV-Sd for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 08 Dec 2012 19:15:37 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ThUYR-0001Fa-T5 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 08 Dec 2012 19:15:36 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:51297) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ThUYR-0001FW-PH for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 08 Dec 2012 19:15:35 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1ThUYs-0006jx-36 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 08 Dec 2012 19:16:02 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: "Drew Adams" Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 09 Dec 2012 00:16:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 13041 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 13041-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B13041.135501211125844 (code B ref 13041); Sun, 09 Dec 2012 00:16:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 13041) by debbugs.gnu.org; 9 Dec 2012 00:15:11 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:33315 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1ThUY2-0006in-P9 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 08 Dec 2012 19:15:10 -0500 Original-Received: from aserp1040.oracle.com ([141.146.126.69]:45506) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1ThUY1-0006ig-0V for 13041@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 08 Dec 2012 19:15:09 -0500 Original-Received: from ucsinet21.oracle.com (ucsinet21.oracle.com [156.151.31.93]) by aserp1040.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.2.2/Sentrion-MTA-4.2.2) with ESMTP id qB90EcUZ012569 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Sun, 9 Dec 2012 00:14:39 GMT Original-Received: from acsmt358.oracle.com (acsmt358.oracle.com [141.146.40.158]) by ucsinet21.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id qB90Ebb1004689 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sun, 9 Dec 2012 00:14:38 GMT Original-Received: from abhmt110.oracle.com (abhmt110.oracle.com [141.146.116.62]) by acsmt358.oracle.com (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id qB90EbMI018544; Sat, 8 Dec 2012 18:14:37 -0600 Original-Received: from dradamslap1 (/71.202.147.44) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Sat, 08 Dec 2012 16:14:36 -0800 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-reply-to: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.6157 Thread-Index: Ac3Vn2QgO4+j05+dQUiXQ9HwhwZC+gAAXQ/w X-Source-IP: ucsinet21.oracle.com [156.151.31.93] X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:68211 Archived-At: > > i.e. "suf" doesn't match "su?er", only "suff" should match it. > > I completely disagree here. "suf" should match "su?er". The Unicode Regexp spec says that it is best, if possible, to let users do either. It discusses such different search possibilities explicitly. We might not be able to support that superior level (level 2) for Emacs search, but the point is that each kind of matching can be useful here. At this stage of the discussion it should not, I think, be a case of "I completely disagree" (or completely agree), unless you have already decided something wrt design/implementation etc. Better to look at the possibilities for users and then discuss what it might take to be able to support this or that kind of search matching.