From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Glenn Morris Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#28280: Maximally unhelpful diagnostic message. Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2017 15:51:38 -0400 Message-ID: <0ia82gu94l.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> References: <20170829184140.GA4339@ACM> <20170829201557.GB4339@ACM> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1504122732 14512 195.159.176.226 (30 Aug 2017 19:52:12 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2017 19:52:12 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Gnus (www.gnus.org), GNU Emacs (www.gnu.org/software/emacs/) Cc: 28280@debbugs.gnu.org To: Alan Mackenzie Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Aug 30 21:52:08 2017 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1dn91v-0003KY-GI for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 30 Aug 2017 21:52:03 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:52435 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dn922-0003Vf-II for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 30 Aug 2017 15:52:10 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:48810) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dn91u-0003UG-Qn for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 30 Aug 2017 15:52:03 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dn91u-0003ey-5o for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 30 Aug 2017 15:52:02 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.43]:54614) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dn91u-0003et-1g for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 30 Aug 2017 15:52:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1dn91t-0006Zo-OS for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 30 Aug 2017 15:52:01 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Glenn Morris Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2017 19:52:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 28280 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 28280-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B28280.150412271125264 (code B ref 28280); Wed, 30 Aug 2017 19:52:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 28280) by debbugs.gnu.org; 30 Aug 2017 19:51:51 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:35062 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1dn91j-0006ZP-3L for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 30 Aug 2017 15:51:51 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:57748) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1dn91g-0006ZD-Up for 28280@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 30 Aug 2017 15:51:49 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dn91b-0003Zb-2A for 28280@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 30 Aug 2017 15:51:43 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:44742) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dn91X-0003YO-Ec; Wed, 30 Aug 2017 15:51:39 -0400 Original-Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1dn91W-00051P-TV; Wed, 30 Aug 2017 15:51:38 -0400 X-Spook: strategic gamma Smallpox Saddam Hussein Mudslide Burst X-Ran: K+j#=-64&89?7'mp]Mb`(;&WStpHy?LrZo"&9kI?*k\Y0+OoQF%uS*y#&3;=}0%&BLoDVh X-Hue: green X-Attribution: GM In-Reply-To: <20170829201557.GB4339@ACM> (Alan Mackenzie's message of "Tue, 29 Aug 2017 20:15:57 +0000") X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 208.118.235.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:136389 Archived-At: Alan Mackenzie wrote: > Yes, but that's a separate problem from the essence of the bug report. So M-x toggle-debug-on-error, like with any error.