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From: martin rudalics <rudalics@gmx.at>
To: Sean Devlin <spd@toadstyle.org>
Cc: 44933@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#44933: 27.1; Ephemeral frame selection shrinks minibuffer
Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2020 10:04:54 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <0dec5a12-e2f6-a210-6300-835bb3358d53@gmx.at> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <E3927CEA-ABE7-479E-A8D7-D57AFF565ABA@toadstyle.org>

 > In my reproduction, the minibuffer window is grown manually via
 > `window-resize`.

With 'resize-mini-windows' non-nil this usually has no visible effect
because any such manual resizing is immediately undone by the automatic
resizing scheme.

 > In the case of selectrum, the completing read
 > candidates are displayed via overlay. I think this means that a
 > resizing function that considers the buffer text only will resize
 > these back down to a single line.

The routine that determines the window size (resize_mini_window in
xdisp.c) should consider overlays as well (if they are in the right
buffer).  Anything else would be a bug.

 > I just tested, and binding `resize-mini-windows` to nil around the
 > window selection in `term-emulate-terminal` does solve my
 > problem. Does this seem like the right fix? I think it is surprising
 > that output from a term process coming in the background should resize
 > a minibuffer window (and especially an active one).

If you look into the code of do_switch_frame (in frame.c) you will be
able to spot

   if (!for_deletion && FRAME_HAS_MINIBUF_P (sf))
     resize_mini_window (XWINDOW (FRAME_MINIBUF_WINDOW (sf)), 1);

which means that currently even redisplay itself may resize the mini
window every time it constructs a mode line or frame title.  I can only
offer two advices: (1) Avoid 'with-selected-window/frame' in timers and
(2) make sure no redisplay happen _within_ such a form.

 > Also, I see that `term-emulate-terminal` is calling `select-window` to
 > perform its window selections. From my reading of the docs, I think it
 > might make sense for it to pass `mark-for-redisplay` as the `norecord`
 > argument. It doesn't seem like we should be modifying the buffer list
 > or most recently selected window in this case, but we do want to
 > redisplay the new output.

I would have to understand the semantics of 'term-emulate-terminal' to
answer that.  Hopefully, someone else can chime in here.

 > I think the documentation should clarify that window selection can
 > change window sizes as a side effect. The docs for selecting windows
 > (https://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/manual/html_node/elisp/Selecting-Windows.html)
 > do not mention that `select-window` can change minibuffer sizes. The
 > docs for minibuffer windows
 > (https://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/manual/html_node/elisp/Minibuffer-Windows.html)
 > do mention these variables to control how minibuffer windows can be
 > resized automatically, but they do not say what functions might try to
 > do this automatic resizing.

With the recently added 'minibuffer-follows-selected-frame' we now have
an additional source of complications to consider.  Maybe you could, as
soon as the implementation of the latter has consolidated, play with the
various values of 'resize-mini-windows' and suggest suitable fixes for
the documentations of 'select-window' and 'select-frame'.

Alternatively, we could consider skipping the

     resize_mini_window (XWINDOW (FRAME_MINIBUF_WINDOW (sf)), 1);

above for temporary window/frame selections (and at least for redisplay
as I currently do here) but the consequences of such a step are not
easily fathomable.

 > Finally, I wonder if `with-selected-window` (which
 > `term-emulate-terminal` does not currently use) should bind
 > `resize-mini-windows`.

... with the consequences I mentioned in the sentence before ...

 > The docs say it is "the preferred way to
 > temporarily work with" a selected window, so it does seem like
 > automatic resizing is not in the spirit of the function. On the other
 > hand, I don't know all the existing use cases; maybe this would break
 > things.

Right.

martin





  reply	other threads:[~2020-11-30  9:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-11-28 21:21 bug#44933: 27.1; Ephemeral frame selection shrinks minibuffer Sean Devlin
2020-11-29  8:22 ` martin rudalics
2020-11-29 15:43   ` Sean Devlin
2020-11-30  9:04     ` martin rudalics [this message]
2020-11-30 19:32       ` Sean Devlin
2020-12-01  9:33         ` martin rudalics
2020-12-01 20:32           ` Sean Devlin
2020-12-02  7:45             ` martin rudalics
2020-12-02  7:52               ` martin rudalics
2020-12-02 18:24                 ` Sean Devlin
2020-12-12 20:23                   ` Sean Devlin
2020-12-13  7:26                     ` martin rudalics
2020-12-13 16:10                       ` Sean Devlin
2020-12-14 15:47                         ` martin rudalics

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