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From: Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com>
To: Marcin Borkowski <mbork@mbork.pl>, Stefan Kangas <stefan@marxist.se>
Cc: "Karl O. Pinc" <kop@meme.com>, 3540@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#3540: Please reserve a ctrl-key combination for interoperability
Date: Sun, 6 Oct 2019 09:10:59 -0700 (PDT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <0d884621-5d6e-47c6-8a0e-d70d4c09f15e@default> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87y2xye4nz.fsf@mbork.pl>

> As a partial solution, the manual *might* suggest to use C-z for that,
> especially that is is bounded to a 99.99% useless command by default
> (and using e.g. screen or tmux makes it 100% useless).

No, please don't do that.  IMO:

`C-z' is better used by users and libraries as a
_prefix key_ (by users who are willing to forego
the default binding).

The manual should not suggest that users bind any
particular keys.  It's OK for a 3rd-party library
to suggest key bindings.  It's not good for Emacs
itself to do that.

3rd-party libraries are opt-in by users.  Using
one is like adding its feature/code to your init
file - it's a user choice.

The same isn't true of much of the code distributed
by Emacs.  And even when a distributed library (e.g.
`dired-x.el') is opt-in, Emacs should not suggest
bindings for its commands.  "Suggestion" by Emacs
is sometimes mistakenly taken by users as a "rule"
or a convention.

There's no good reason for Emacs to suggest that
users use `C-z' for anything particular.





  reply	other threads:[~2019-10-06 16:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-06-12  1:46 bug#3540: Please reserve a ctrl-key combination for interoperability Karl O. Pinc
2010-12-25 11:02 ` bug#3540: reserve a key + inform other gnu package maintainers and mode-authors Arne Babenhauserheide
2019-10-06  4:56 ` bug#3540: Please reserve a ctrl-key combination for interoperability Stefan Kangas
2019-10-06  7:04   ` Marcin Borkowski
2019-10-06 16:10     ` Drew Adams [this message]
2019-10-06 19:39       ` Marcin Borkowski
2019-10-06 21:29         ` Drew Adams
2019-10-09 18:33           ` Marcin Borkowski
2019-10-10 11:04             ` Stefan Kangas
2019-11-17 20:41               ` Stefan Kangas
2019-11-23 23:37               ` Stefan Kangas
2019-10-06 17:38     ` Eli Zaretskii

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