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* bug#74430: 30.0.92; pixel-scroll-precision-mode hiding Eshell prompt after some commands
@ 2024-11-18 17:52 Ashton Wiersdorf
  2024-11-21 10:53 ` Eli Zaretskii
  2024-11-25  5:13 ` Jim Porter
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 12+ messages in thread
From: Ashton Wiersdorf @ 2024-11-18 17:52 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: 74430


Reproducing the bug from emacs -Q

I had this as my `early-init.el`:

    (setq package-enable-at-startup nil)
    (setq frame-resize-pixelwise t)

and this as `init.el`:

    (pixel-scroll-precision-mode)

Then, when Emacs started, I resized the window so it wasn't a 
multiple
of a full character's height.

Next, I ran `M-x eshell` and went to an Elixir project where I ran 
`mix
test`. This bit shouldn't be important, but it's the most reliable 
way I
could find to trigger the bug, unfortunately. I'll report back if 
I find
another easily reproducible command that trigger the behavior.

When the command finished, the Eshell prompt was almost entirely
obscured by the modeline.

The bug does not manifest when I turn off 
`pixel-scroll-precision-mode`.
It returns when I turn `pixel-scroll-precision-mode` back on.

In GNU Emacs 30.0.92 (build 2, aarch64-apple-darwin24.1.0, NS
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-- 
Ashton Wiersdorf
https://lambdaland.org/





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* bug#74430: 30.0.92; pixel-scroll-precision-mode hiding Eshell prompt after some commands
  2024-11-18 17:52 bug#74430: 30.0.92; pixel-scroll-precision-mode hiding Eshell prompt after some commands Ashton Wiersdorf
@ 2024-11-21 10:53 ` Eli Zaretskii
  2024-11-21 18:37   ` Jim Porter
  2024-11-25  5:13 ` Jim Porter
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 12+ messages in thread
From: Eli Zaretskii @ 2024-11-21 10:53 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Ashton Wiersdorf, Po Lu, Jim Porter; +Cc: 74430

> From: Ashton Wiersdorf <ashton@wiersdorfmail.net>
> Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2024 10:52:27 -0700
> 
> 
> Reproducing the bug from emacs -Q
> 
> I had this as my `early-init.el`:
> 
>     (setq package-enable-at-startup nil)
>     (setq frame-resize-pixelwise t)
> 
> and this as `init.el`:
> 
>     (pixel-scroll-precision-mode)
> 
> Then, when Emacs started, I resized the window so it wasn't a 
> multiple
> of a full character's height.
> 
> Next, I ran `M-x eshell` and went to an Elixir project where I ran 
> `mix
> test`. This bit shouldn't be important, but it's the most reliable 
> way I
> could find to trigger the bug, unfortunately. I'll report back if 
> I find
> another easily reproducible command that trigger the behavior.
> 
> When the command finished, the Eshell prompt was almost entirely
> obscured by the modeline.
> 
> The bug does not manifest when I turn off 
> `pixel-scroll-precision-mode`.
> It returns when I turn `pixel-scroll-precision-mode` back on.

Po Lu and Jim, could you look into this, please?





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* bug#74430: 30.0.92; pixel-scroll-precision-mode hiding Eshell prompt after some commands
  2024-11-21 10:53 ` Eli Zaretskii
@ 2024-11-21 18:37   ` Jim Porter
  2024-11-21 23:59     ` Po Lu via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 12+ messages in thread
From: Jim Porter @ 2024-11-21 18:37 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Eli Zaretskii, Ashton Wiersdorf, Po Lu; +Cc: 74430

On 11/21/2024 2:53 AM, Eli Zaretskii wrote:
>> From: Ashton Wiersdorf <ashton@wiersdorfmail.net>
>> Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2024 10:52:27 -0700
>>
>> When the command finished, the Eshell prompt was almost entirely
>> obscured by the modeline.
>>
>> The bug does not manifest when I turn off
>> `pixel-scroll-precision-mode`.
>> It returns when I turn `pixel-scroll-precision-mode` back on.
> 
> Po Lu and Jim, could you look into this, please?

I'm only dimly aware of how 'pixel-scroll-precision-mode' works, but I 
seem to recall that it sets the window's vscroll to allow scrolling past 
*part* of a line. On the Eshell side, I believe the relevant function is 
'eshell-postoutput-scroll-to-bottom', which calls 'recenter' to scroll 
the window.

I'm guessing these interact badly, and what we actually want to do is to 
reset the vscroll when Eshell calls 'recenter'. However, I'm not sure 
what the best way to do this would be. Is there some better function 
Eshell can call that would handle this case correctly?





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* bug#74430: 30.0.92; pixel-scroll-precision-mode hiding Eshell prompt after some commands
  2024-11-21 18:37   ` Jim Porter
@ 2024-11-21 23:59     ` Po Lu via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
  2024-11-22  6:58       ` Eli Zaretskii
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 12+ messages in thread
From: Po Lu via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors @ 2024-11-21 23:59 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Jim Porter; +Cc: Eli Zaretskii, Ashton Wiersdorf, 74430

Jim Porter <jporterbugs@gmail.com> writes:

> I'm only dimly aware of how 'pixel-scroll-precision-mode' works, but I
> seem to recall that it sets the window's vscroll to allow scrolling
> past *part* of a line. On the Eshell side, I believe the relevant
> function is 'eshell-postoutput-scroll-to-bottom', which calls
> 'recenter' to scroll the window.
>
> I'm guessing these interact badly, and what we actually want to do is
> to reset the vscroll when Eshell calls 'recenter'. However, I'm not
> sure what the best way to do this would be. Is there some better
> function Eshell can call that would handle this case correctly?

Since pixel-scroll-precision-mode never configures a vscroll taller than
one screen line, resetting vscroll in these scenarios is generally the
safest and simplest solutions to problems such as the OP is facing.





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* bug#74430: 30.0.92; pixel-scroll-precision-mode hiding Eshell prompt after some commands
  2024-11-21 23:59     ` Po Lu via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
@ 2024-11-22  6:58       ` Eli Zaretskii
  2024-11-30 10:07         ` Eli Zaretskii
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 12+ messages in thread
From: Eli Zaretskii @ 2024-11-22  6:58 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Po Lu; +Cc: jporterbugs, ashton, 74430

> From: Po Lu <luangruo@yahoo.com>
> Cc: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>,  Ashton Wiersdorf
>  <ashton@wiersdorfmail.net>,  74430@debbugs.gnu.org
> Date: Fri, 22 Nov 2024 07:59:50 +0800
> 
> Jim Porter <jporterbugs@gmail.com> writes:
> 
> > I'm only dimly aware of how 'pixel-scroll-precision-mode' works, but I
> > seem to recall that it sets the window's vscroll to allow scrolling
> > past *part* of a line. On the Eshell side, I believe the relevant
> > function is 'eshell-postoutput-scroll-to-bottom', which calls
> > 'recenter' to scroll the window.
> >
> > I'm guessing these interact badly, and what we actually want to do is
> > to reset the vscroll when Eshell calls 'recenter'. However, I'm not
> > sure what the best way to do this would be. Is there some better
> > function Eshell can call that would handle this case correctly?
> 
> Since pixel-scroll-precision-mode never configures a vscroll taller than
> one screen line, resetting vscroll in these scenarios is generally the
> safest and simplest solutions to problems such as the OP is facing.

So you suggest that eshell-postoutput-scroll-to-bottom explicitly
resets the window's vscroll, and that should solve the OP's problem?





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* bug#74430: 30.0.92; pixel-scroll-precision-mode hiding Eshell prompt after some commands
  2024-11-18 17:52 bug#74430: 30.0.92; pixel-scroll-precision-mode hiding Eshell prompt after some commands Ashton Wiersdorf
  2024-11-21 10:53 ` Eli Zaretskii
@ 2024-11-25  5:13 ` Jim Porter
  2024-11-30 10:07   ` Eli Zaretskii
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 12+ messages in thread
From: Jim Porter @ 2024-11-25  5:13 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Ashton Wiersdorf, 74430

On 11/18/2024 9:52 AM, Ashton Wiersdorf wrote:
> Then, when Emacs started, I resized the window so it wasn't a multiple
> of a full character's height.
[snip]
> When the command finished, the Eshell prompt was almost entirely
> obscured by the modeline.

I'm not able to reproduce this. I tried running a bunch of commands, 
including ones that output large amounts of text, but it all works as 
expected: once Eshell starts scrolling the buffer (by way of calls to 
'recenter'), the vscroll is reset to 0 and everything works as it should.





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* bug#74430: 30.0.92; pixel-scroll-precision-mode hiding Eshell prompt after some commands
  2024-11-25  5:13 ` Jim Porter
@ 2024-11-30 10:07   ` Eli Zaretskii
  2024-12-14  9:38     ` Eli Zaretskii
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 12+ messages in thread
From: Eli Zaretskii @ 2024-11-30 10:07 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: ashton, Jim Porter; +Cc: 74430

> Date: Sun, 24 Nov 2024 21:13:33 -0800
> From: Jim Porter <jporterbugs@gmail.com>
> 
> On 11/18/2024 9:52 AM, Ashton Wiersdorf wrote:
> > Then, when Emacs started, I resized the window so it wasn't a multiple
> > of a full character's height.
> [snip]
> > When the command finished, the Eshell prompt was almost entirely
> > obscured by the modeline.
> 
> I'm not able to reproduce this. I tried running a bunch of commands, 
> including ones that output large amounts of text, but it all works as 
> expected: once Eshell starts scrolling the buffer (by way of calls to 
> 'recenter'), the vscroll is reset to 0 and everything works as it should.

Ashton, could you please help Jim reproduce the problem?





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* bug#74430: 30.0.92; pixel-scroll-precision-mode hiding Eshell prompt after some commands
  2024-11-22  6:58       ` Eli Zaretskii
@ 2024-11-30 10:07         ` Eli Zaretskii
  2024-12-14  9:38           ` Eli Zaretskii
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 12+ messages in thread
From: Eli Zaretskii @ 2024-11-30 10:07 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: luangruo; +Cc: jporterbugs, ashton, 74430

Ping!

> Cc: jporterbugs@gmail.com, ashton@wiersdorfmail.net, 74430@debbugs.gnu.org
> Date: Fri, 22 Nov 2024 08:58:58 +0200
> From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
> 
> > From: Po Lu <luangruo@yahoo.com>
> > Cc: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>,  Ashton Wiersdorf
> >  <ashton@wiersdorfmail.net>,  74430@debbugs.gnu.org
> > Date: Fri, 22 Nov 2024 07:59:50 +0800
> > 
> > Jim Porter <jporterbugs@gmail.com> writes:
> > 
> > > I'm only dimly aware of how 'pixel-scroll-precision-mode' works, but I
> > > seem to recall that it sets the window's vscroll to allow scrolling
> > > past *part* of a line. On the Eshell side, I believe the relevant
> > > function is 'eshell-postoutput-scroll-to-bottom', which calls
> > > 'recenter' to scroll the window.
> > >
> > > I'm guessing these interact badly, and what we actually want to do is
> > > to reset the vscroll when Eshell calls 'recenter'. However, I'm not
> > > sure what the best way to do this would be. Is there some better
> > > function Eshell can call that would handle this case correctly?
> > 
> > Since pixel-scroll-precision-mode never configures a vscroll taller than
> > one screen line, resetting vscroll in these scenarios is generally the
> > safest and simplest solutions to problems such as the OP is facing.
> 
> So you suggest that eshell-postoutput-scroll-to-bottom explicitly
> resets the window's vscroll, and that should solve the OP's problem?
> 
> 
> 
> 





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* bug#74430: 30.0.92; pixel-scroll-precision-mode hiding Eshell prompt after some commands
  2024-11-30 10:07   ` Eli Zaretskii
@ 2024-12-14  9:38     ` Eli Zaretskii
  2024-12-14 18:40       ` Ashton Wiersdorf
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 12+ messages in thread
From: Eli Zaretskii @ 2024-12-14  9:38 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: ashton; +Cc: jporterbugs, 74430

Ping!  Ashton, please respond.

> Cc: 74430@debbugs.gnu.org
> Date: Sat, 30 Nov 2024 12:07:20 +0200
> From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
> 
> > Date: Sun, 24 Nov 2024 21:13:33 -0800
> > From: Jim Porter <jporterbugs@gmail.com>
> > 
> > On 11/18/2024 9:52 AM, Ashton Wiersdorf wrote:
> > > Then, when Emacs started, I resized the window so it wasn't a multiple
> > > of a full character's height.
> > [snip]
> > > When the command finished, the Eshell prompt was almost entirely
> > > obscured by the modeline.
> > 
> > I'm not able to reproduce this. I tried running a bunch of commands, 
> > including ones that output large amounts of text, but it all works as 
> > expected: once Eshell starts scrolling the buffer (by way of calls to 
> > 'recenter'), the vscroll is reset to 0 and everything works as it should.
> 
> Ashton, could you please help Jim reproduce the problem?
> 
> 
> 
> 





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* bug#74430: 30.0.92; pixel-scroll-precision-mode hiding Eshell prompt after some commands
  2024-11-30 10:07         ` Eli Zaretskii
@ 2024-12-14  9:38           ` Eli Zaretskii
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 12+ messages in thread
From: Eli Zaretskii @ 2024-12-14  9:38 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: luangruo; +Cc: jporterbugs, ashton, 74430

Ping! Ping!  Po Lu, can you please answer the question?

> Cc: jporterbugs@gmail.com, ashton@wiersdorfmail.net, 74430@debbugs.gnu.org
> Date: Sat, 30 Nov 2024 12:07:51 +0200
> From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
> 
> Ping!
> 
> > Cc: jporterbugs@gmail.com, ashton@wiersdorfmail.net, 74430@debbugs.gnu.org
> > Date: Fri, 22 Nov 2024 08:58:58 +0200
> > From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
> > 
> > > From: Po Lu <luangruo@yahoo.com>
> > > Cc: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>,  Ashton Wiersdorf
> > >  <ashton@wiersdorfmail.net>,  74430@debbugs.gnu.org
> > > Date: Fri, 22 Nov 2024 07:59:50 +0800
> > > 
> > > Jim Porter <jporterbugs@gmail.com> writes:
> > > 
> > > > I'm only dimly aware of how 'pixel-scroll-precision-mode' works, but I
> > > > seem to recall that it sets the window's vscroll to allow scrolling
> > > > past *part* of a line. On the Eshell side, I believe the relevant
> > > > function is 'eshell-postoutput-scroll-to-bottom', which calls
> > > > 'recenter' to scroll the window.
> > > >
> > > > I'm guessing these interact badly, and what we actually want to do is
> > > > to reset the vscroll when Eshell calls 'recenter'. However, I'm not
> > > > sure what the best way to do this would be. Is there some better
> > > > function Eshell can call that would handle this case correctly?
> > > 
> > > Since pixel-scroll-precision-mode never configures a vscroll taller than
> > > one screen line, resetting vscroll in these scenarios is generally the
> > > safest and simplest solutions to problems such as the OP is facing.
> > 
> > So you suggest that eshell-postoutput-scroll-to-bottom explicitly
> > resets the window's vscroll, and that should solve the OP's problem?
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> 
> 
> 
> 





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* bug#74430: 30.0.92; pixel-scroll-precision-mode hiding Eshell prompt after some commands
  2024-12-14  9:38     ` Eli Zaretskii
@ 2024-12-14 18:40       ` Ashton Wiersdorf
  2024-12-15 19:10         ` Jim Porter
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 12+ messages in thread
From: Ashton Wiersdorf @ 2024-12-14 18:40 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Eli Zaretskii; +Cc: jporterbugs, 74430

Hey, sorry Eli. I haven't been able to get this to reproduce 
consistently—it happens most often when I run a (broken) test 
suite on an Elixir project I'm working on, and then only 
sometimes. I think running a complex Elixir application would be a 
suboptimal thing to run to try to reproduce the bug, no?

I might have a little time today to try reproducing it with 
simpler commands; I'll let you know then. Sorry I haven't been 
able to get a MWE yet.

-- 
Ashton Wiersdorf
https://lambdaland.org/





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* bug#74430: 30.0.92; pixel-scroll-precision-mode hiding Eshell prompt after some commands
  2024-12-14 18:40       ` Ashton Wiersdorf
@ 2024-12-15 19:10         ` Jim Porter
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 12+ messages in thread
From: Jim Porter @ 2024-12-15 19:10 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Ashton Wiersdorf, Eli Zaretskii; +Cc: 74430

On 12/14/2024 10:40 AM, Ashton Wiersdorf wrote:
> Hey, sorry Eli. I haven't been able to get this to reproduce 
> consistently—it happens most often when I run a (broken) test suite on 
> an Elixir project I'm working on, and then only sometimes. I think 
> running a complex Elixir application would be a suboptimal thing to run 
> to try to reproduce the bug, no?
> 
> I might have a little time today to try reproducing it with simpler 
> commands; I'll let you know then. Sorry I haven't been able to get a MWE 
> yet.

If you can't find a minimal example, a screenshot could also help, so 
long as you wouldn't be leaking any private information.

Also, are there any "unique" properties of the output that causes this 
bug? For example, does it use "\r" carriage returns to overwrite the 
last line, or does it use emojis, or anything like that? If there's 
something different from the norm, that could help narrow things down.





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