From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Steve Purcell Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#72829: describe-function NEWS* scraper override Date: Mon, 9 Sep 2024 15:43:01 +0100 Message-ID: <0F7EAF42-7F20-4087-8EB6-DA64F1D0E7A0@sanityinc.com> References: <79C79924-4870-4E55-9920-3D2C08A1E765@gmail.com> <9C37E010-B0F8-48EA-9E40-8E26A17BC929@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 16.0 \(3776.700.51\)) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="6382"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: 72829@debbugs.gnu.org, Stefan Kangas , Stefan Monnier To: Mattias =?UTF-8?Q?Engdeg=C3=A5rd?= Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Mon Sep 09 16:44:37 2024 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1snfd6-0001WH-Rs for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 09 Sep 2024 16:44:36 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1snfcX-0002pB-5p; Mon, 09 Sep 2024 10:44:01 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1snfcV-0002hw-6R for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 09 Sep 2024 10:43:59 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:5::43]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1snfcU-000626-Tb for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 09 Sep 2024 10:43:58 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=debbugs.gnu.org; s=debbugs-gnu-org; h=References:Date:In-Reply-To:From:Mime-Version:To:Subject; bh=mw0SvVDh8LhUGfaXbyLoLcRq0MYfV4H9kfSGzEBCkn8=; b=hzVKuWTNm1kirtjAjcNuUNwxT6OgS90Pawwdc4umN+CkShR4/nbnGoEdDVbASsdABjOOUQWj8+7eHEEPt+UjWMtIbHNDwgconYiRepCGxZiKn92xLPLfil8KeuHMavGMLyrStqMkS6SaRjvcIaMyCutBGCZMC27klokyhjpgJUQfGS/AbGW7AsqA7nzgMHv2fXeHZzP5jL72FgSiVVOOF7gRlls+5q2PIIUTZ4Hj6qVnT5ncwkXruMd7okJdVQ67SEnkVpUq1+t1U5FyThIklkEVoL9qDj0B3BHXV0VqjxBV0HPuI0+niB2Umbj0RtZKDb1nuTzc1qW0+de2RkPDIQ==; Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1snfcY-0001jc-Hv for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 09 Sep 2024 10:44:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Steve Purcell Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 09 Sep 2024 14:44:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 72829 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 72829-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B72829.17258930056606 (code B ref 72829); Mon, 09 Sep 2024 14:44:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 72829) by debbugs.gnu.org; 9 Sep 2024 14:43:25 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:33838 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1snfbx-0001iT-Gd for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 09 Sep 2024 10:43:25 -0400 Original-Received: from mail.purcellpeople.com ([139.162.128.219]:54246) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1snfbv-0001iD-7K for 72829@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 09 Sep 2024 10:43:23 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=sanityinc.com; s=default; t=1725892992; bh=mw0SvVDh8LhUGfaXbyLoLcRq0MYfV4H9kfSGzEBCkn8=; h=Subject:From:In-Reply-To:Date:Cc:References:To; b=JDPeElhAviZWqfXS6/bo9+/eBeyd1q2Z90ajA6ZVi0KjzJw2f+vLQShVdQ3JILXiP O79lq4csand1Mpv87NsifFF9GZK8ZbyD2fF4PgYtkNv912osj5as+v9MUejkZYP7SL zXOXKTxgr8mLjZQw2cRzpP0T3sD5UDVws66oxeXg= In-Reply-To: <9C37E010-B0F8-48EA-9E40-8E26A17BC929@gmail.com> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:291507 Archived-At: Yep, happy to discuss. The case for removals is that some symbols were = actually removed in one Emacs version and then re-added later. My overall technique is to load everything that I can, dump all the = symbols I found, and then diff those dumps between Emacs versions. Using = my nix-emacs-ci builds makes this straightforward to automate. Not all features shipped with an Emacs build can be loaded in that = build, though, because some rely on native or optional features, e.g. = Windows or Treesitter. As such, it=E2=80=99s hard to get an = authoritative list of all the known symbols. In practice, the lists I=E2=80=99ve generated have been good enough for = package-lint, and I often use the `package-lint-describe-symbol-history` = command when I=E2=80=99m curious about a given symbol. -Steve=