From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Drew Adams" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#10624: Dired-marking all files in the region Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2012 09:12:06 -0800 Message-ID: <089809C342424A529E4FEAA49440F205@us.oracle.com> References: <0F10A2A4C6E541469381BA91CB8AEEB3@us.oracle.com><60BBA8177B8C4157BBB5426B2F6A8204@us.oracle.com><87392k2ml9.fsf@mail.jurta.org><4200B2318C4140E68FA74B61375885B9@us.oracle.com><87sjaj2atc.fsf@mail.jurta.org><96319E709DC548DBADB263DA2DD11A82@us.oracle.com><87fw6his5w.fsf_-_@mail.jurta.org> <87ehjmrmzg.fsf@mail.jurta.org><6AEA16518F864D14983BCA3F42788FF0@us.oracle.com> <87ehjkg404.fsf@mail.jurta.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1353690762 23354 80.91.229.3 (23 Nov 2012 17:12:42 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2012 17:12:42 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 10624@debbugs.gnu.org To: "'Juri Linkov'" Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Nov 23 18:12:51 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Tbwo7-0007g4-2q for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; 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Fri, 23 Nov 2012 17:12:12 GMT Original-Received: from abhmt110.oracle.com (abhmt110.oracle.com [141.146.116.62]) by acsmt356.oracle.com (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id qANHCBhW002214; Fri, 23 Nov 2012 11:12:11 -0600 Original-Received: from dradamslap1 (/71.202.147.44) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Fri, 23 Nov 2012 09:12:11 -0800 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <87ehjkg404.fsf@mail.jurta.org> Thread-Index: Ac3JULx1+xwJfw9BTkWL9vwB80f6vgAS1Qaw X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.6157 X-Source-IP: ucsinet21.oracle.com [156.151.31.93] X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:67358 Archived-At: > > IOW, why change the behavior for Dired generally (i.e., > > including outside WDired mode), for a problem that you > > found only inside WDired? > > This problem is not WDired specific. I have not seen a description of "this" problem, other than a description of a problem for WDired. Can you characterize "this problem" for Dired generally? This is the only description I've seen, and it seems quite WDired-specific: >> when the region is active before typing `C-c C-c' >> in WDired it marks renamed files with the same marker, ^^^^^^^^^ >> because currently WDired uses `dired-add-entry' ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >> that calls `dired-mark'. How is "this problem" manifested for Dired, other than for WDired? And I don't understand this: > It is better to opt-in this functionality by setting the > `interactive' arg than to opt-out it in specific packages > because this feature makes sense only for interactive use in Dired. What is the argument as to why this makes sense only for interactive use in Dired? Or that it makes sense always for interactive use in Dired? Sorry, but this is not yet clear to me. Seems like maybe some steps are missing from your argument. They are no doubt obvious to you, but not yet to me. Could you please fill in the blanks a bit? Again, excuse me for not grasping this quickly.