From: Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com>
To: Paul Eggert <eggert@cs.ucla.edu>, Alan Mackenzie <acm@muc.de>
Cc: 23425@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#23425: master branch: `message' wrongly corrupts ' to curly quote.
Date: Fri, 9 Jun 2017 15:51:03 -0700 (PDT) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <0846dd8a-804d-4df9-8a45-979a9d49b5d6@default> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3b2a119e-7c2e-e906-dea0-ae91aca80f33@cs.ucla.edu>
> Although the proposed function is similar to the message
> function, it differs in that it does not restyle quotes.
It is function `message', not your proposed function `memo',
that should not "restyle" quote chars.
If you want a function that restyles quote chars then _that_
should be a new function. Existing code - and future code -
that uses `message' should not have any such "restyling"
imposed on it.
If you had simply offered to add such a new function, I
doubt that anyone would have complained. Seriously.
Instead, you had to impose this incompatible and specialized
prettification on the longstanding and ubiquitous, stalwart
workhorse function `message'.
That was a grave design error. It should never have been
allowed.
> it depends not only on doing the work for Emacs itself, but also for
> third-party software written in Elisp. These are significant costs.
Really? You are actually arguing for concern about 3rd-party
maintenance work now? This is like DJT complaining about fake
news from others.
Where was that concern when you hijacked `message'? Where was
your proposal to create another function, then?
> Users should not be required to litter their code with hard-to-read
> formats like "Can%'t encode %`0x%x%' with this buffer%'s coding system"
> to get decent quoting.
And now you are concerned about users? Where was that concern
when you imposed an incompatible change on `message'?
> existing callers such as (message "%s" filename) would continue
> to operate as before, and would not need to be changed.
Where was your concern about letting `message' callers be
able to continue operating as before, before?
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2017-06-09 22:51 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 99+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2016-05-02 14:55 bug#23425: master branch: `message' wrongly corrupts ' to curly quote Alan Mackenzie
2016-05-02 16:25 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2016-05-02 16:41 ` Drew Adams
2016-05-02 17:53 ` Paul Eggert
2016-05-02 19:10 ` Alan Mackenzie
2016-05-03 15:17 ` Paul Eggert
2016-05-03 16:36 ` Drew Adams
2016-05-03 16:59 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-05-03 15:38 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-05-03 16:27 ` Alan Mackenzie
2016-05-03 16:55 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-05-03 20:03 ` Alan Mackenzie
2016-05-03 20:49 ` Paul Eggert
2016-05-04 15:32 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-05-04 16:48 ` Alan Mackenzie
2016-05-04 17:03 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-05-04 17:37 ` Josh
2016-05-04 19:05 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-05-04 18:04 ` Alan Mackenzie
2016-05-04 18:39 ` Paul Eggert
2016-05-04 18:57 ` Alan Mackenzie
2016-05-04 19:02 ` John Wiegley
2016-05-04 21:34 ` Paul Eggert
2016-05-04 21:50 ` Paul Eggert
2016-05-04 23:49 ` Paul Eggert
2016-05-05 15:51 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-05-10 14:41 ` Paul Eggert
2017-05-31 1:07 ` Glenn Morris
2017-05-31 1:42 ` Paul Eggert
2017-05-31 21:24 ` Alan Mackenzie
2017-05-31 23:26 ` Paul Eggert
2017-06-02 21:02 ` Alan Mackenzie
2017-06-02 21:15 ` Dmitry Gutov
2017-06-03 21:10 ` Alan Mackenzie
[not found] ` <20170603211010.GD2130@acm.fritz.box>
2017-06-03 21:32 ` Dmitry Gutov
2017-06-02 21:47 ` Paul Eggert
2017-06-03 0:13 ` Glenn Morris
2017-06-03 21:01 ` Alan Mackenzie
2017-06-03 20:53 ` Alan Mackenzie
[not found] ` <20170603205331.GA2130@acm.fritz.box>
2017-06-04 21:01 ` Paul Eggert
2017-06-05 16:27 ` Alan Mackenzie
[not found] ` <20170605162737.GA30946@acm.fritz.box>
2017-06-05 18:19 ` Paul Eggert
[not found] ` <ac90b979-6a37-29c4-03b3-6322ac2cc11a@cs.ucla.edu>
2017-06-05 18:31 ` Andreas Schwab
2017-06-05 20:37 ` Alan Mackenzie
[not found] ` <20170605203753.GB30946@acm.fritz.box>
2017-06-05 21:05 ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2017-06-07 16:50 ` Alan Mackenzie
2017-06-07 19:29 ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2017-06-06 0:14 ` Paul Eggert
2017-06-06 8:21 ` Andreas Schwab
[not found] ` <mvmtw3tsf05.fsf@suse.de>
2017-06-06 12:24 ` Clément Pit-Claudel
[not found] ` <fa92f34f-982b-e9a5-be21-188e694e38d9@gmail.com>
2017-06-06 13:55 ` Yuri Khan
[not found] ` <CAP_d_8X7V_G4g7emn_EPd_YYPKu2HfnDE+Q3FOPMGXpB4sEYSw@mail.gmail.com>
2017-06-06 18:21 ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2017-06-06 18:59 ` Yuri Khan
[not found] ` <CAP_d_8X5OBsQQ=0+dj-qYFV3yEC4WZVMpyRw1KyiM0tvJUNFMw@mail.gmail.com>
2017-06-06 19:39 ` Clément Pit-Claudel
[not found] ` <10515b89-1c60-227e-ff3d-3127f59c0daf@gmail.com>
2017-06-07 4:57 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-06-06 23:09 ` Paul Eggert
2017-06-07 7:44 ` Andreas Schwab
2017-06-07 18:17 ` Paul Eggert
2017-06-08 8:04 ` Andreas Schwab
2017-06-07 13:27 ` Drew Adams
2017-06-07 19:13 ` Alan Mackenzie
2017-06-07 19:27 ` Clément Pit-Claudel
[not found] ` <966db090-4aa1-231c-ef5a-370ece8905d1@gmail.com>
2017-06-07 19:33 ` Dmitry Gutov
2017-06-07 19:51 ` Alan Mackenzie
2017-06-07 20:33 ` Alan Mackenzie
2017-06-07 23:28 ` Paul Eggert
2017-06-08 17:34 ` Alan Mackenzie
2017-06-08 20:17 ` Paul Eggert
2017-06-09 19:41 ` Alan Mackenzie
2017-06-09 20:17 ` Drew Adams
2017-06-09 20:38 ` Alan Mackenzie
2017-06-09 21:05 ` Drew Adams
2017-06-09 21:44 ` Paul Eggert
2017-06-09 22:51 ` Drew Adams [this message]
2017-06-10 0:20 ` Paul Eggert
2017-06-10 10:01 ` Alan Mackenzie
2017-06-10 10:52 ` David Engster
2017-06-10 11:48 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-06-10 13:01 ` Alan Mackenzie
2017-06-10 13:39 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-06-11 10:03 ` Alan Mackenzie
2017-06-11 14:37 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-06-10 15:28 ` Dmitry Gutov
2017-06-01 16:56 ` Glenn Morris
2017-06-03 21:07 ` Alan Mackenzie
2016-05-04 18:46 ` John Wiegley
2016-05-04 20:23 ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-05-04 21:15 ` John Wiegley
2016-05-04 22:19 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2016-05-05 7:12 ` Andreas Schwab
2016-05-05 17:05 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-05-05 8:06 ` Alan Mackenzie
2016-05-05 17:06 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-05-05 23:46 ` John Wiegley
2016-05-06 8:54 ` Nicolas Petton
2016-05-04 19:08 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-05-04 21:49 ` Andreas Schwab
2017-06-09 20:31 ` Glenn Morris
2017-06-10 7:08 ` Eli Zaretskii
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