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From: Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>, Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com>
Cc: 29766@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#29766: 25.3; REGRESSION, Dired on MS Windows, switches -alF
Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2017 12:44:20 -0800 (PST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <07c40ae2-2160-43e3-b246-b98db5fc4b04@default> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <<83lghzq0r4.fsf@gnu.org>>

> > 1. The #...# files are missing.
> >
> > 2. The .* (dot) files are missing.
> 
> They are not missing here, at least not in some 2 random directories I
> tried, so maybe this is something specific to your system.

You're right.  Those files are mixed in with the others, instead
of being clumped together at the beginning.  My directory listing
is large, and I didn't notice these few files as they were lost
in the sea of "normal" files.

So I guess you can close this bug.

> > 3. The order of the other files is changed.
> 
> This might be due to this change (from NEWS.25):
> 
>   *** The ls-lisp package uses 'string-collate-lessp' to sort file names.
>   The effect is that, on systems that use ls-lisp for Dired, the default
>   sort order of the files in Dired is now different from what it was in
>   previous versions of Emacs.  In particular, the file names are sorted
>   disregarding punctuation, accents, and diacritics, and letter case is
>   ignored.  For example, files whose name begin with a period will no
>   longer appear near the beginning of the directory listing.  If you
>   want the old, locale-independent sorting, customize the new option
>   'ls-lisp-use-string-collate' to the nil value.

Thanks.  Yes, changing the option value to nil solves
everything.

Why the longstanding default behavior changed?  I can see
someone wanting a different order, and so I understand
that we added an option for this.  But why was the default
changed?





       reply	other threads:[~2017-12-18 20:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
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     [not found] ` <<83lghzq0r4.fsf@gnu.org>
2017-12-18 20:44   ` Drew Adams [this message]
2017-12-19  3:25     ` bug#29766: 25.3; REGRESSION, Dired on MS Windows, switches -alF Eli Zaretskii
     [not found] <<<<<52375503-be26-49ea-9d31-9926a125c0db@default>
     [not found] ` <<<<<83lghzq0r4.fsf@gnu.org>
     [not found]   ` <<<<07c40ae2-2160-43e3-b246-b98db5fc4b04@default>
     [not found]     ` <<<<83ind3pfez.fsf@gnu.org>
     [not found]       ` <<<1ca5954e-224c-4bce-b70b-8d3fece8d7fd@default>
     [not found]         ` <<<83efnqputp.fsf@gnu.org>
     [not found]           ` <<d5184fa1-cd78-4ab8-b517-83c90b2a6948@default>
     [not found]             ` <<83y3lyo5to.fsf@gnu.org>
2017-12-19 21:11               ` Drew Adams
2017-12-20  3:32                 ` Eli Zaretskii
     [not found] <<<<52375503-be26-49ea-9d31-9926a125c0db@default>
     [not found] ` <<<<83lghzq0r4.fsf@gnu.org>
     [not found]   ` <<<07c40ae2-2160-43e3-b246-b98db5fc4b04@default>
     [not found]     ` <<<83ind3pfez.fsf@gnu.org>
     [not found]       ` <<1ca5954e-224c-4bce-b70b-8d3fece8d7fd@default>
     [not found]         ` <<83efnqputp.fsf@gnu.org>
2017-12-19 17:08           ` Drew Adams
2017-12-19 19:50             ` Eli Zaretskii
     [not found] <<<52375503-be26-49ea-9d31-9926a125c0db@default>
     [not found] ` <<<83lghzq0r4.fsf@gnu.org>
     [not found]   ` <<07c40ae2-2160-43e3-b246-b98db5fc4b04@default>
     [not found]     ` <<83ind3pfez.fsf@gnu.org>
2017-12-19  5:11       ` Drew Adams
2017-12-19 16:05         ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-12-18 18:52 Drew Adams
2017-12-18 19:44 ` Eli Zaretskii

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