From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Drew Adams Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#26236: 24.5; Info manual: need better index entry for node "`1'-`9' choose a menu subtopic by its number" Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2017 07:08:35 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <071c6394-5855-4388-b665-5e374d8f5fd4@default> References: <83tw6hbxji.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1490450958 24402 195.159.176.226 (25 Mar 2017 14:09:18 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2017 14:09:18 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 26236-done@debbugs.gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Mar 25 15:09:14 2017 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1crmNQ-0005O0-18 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 25 Mar 2017 15:09:08 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:37491 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1crmNV-0000bp-RL for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 25 Mar 2017 10:09:13 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:59935) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1crmNN-0000bY-HY for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 25 Mar 2017 10:09:06 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1crmNK-0006QR-Sp for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 25 Mar 2017 10:09:05 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.43]:46211) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1crmNK-0006QL-Nt for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 25 Mar 2017 10:09:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1crmNK-0001w5-Cv for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 25 Mar 2017 10:09:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Drew Adams Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2017 14:09:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 26236 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 26236-done@debbugs.gnu.org id=D26236.14904509277419 (code D ref 26236); Sat, 25 Mar 2017 14:09:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 26236-done) by debbugs.gnu.org; 25 Mar 2017 14:08:47 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:44410 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1crmN5-0001vb-5o for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 25 Mar 2017 10:08:47 -0400 Original-Received: from userp1040.oracle.com ([156.151.31.81]:28312) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1crmN2-0001vN-OZ for 26236-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 25 Mar 2017 10:08:45 -0400 Original-Received: from aserv0022.oracle.com (aserv0022.oracle.com [141.146.126.234]) by userp1040.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2/Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2) with ESMTP id v2PE8cB0005719 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=OK); Sat, 25 Mar 2017 14:08:38 GMT Original-Received: from aserv0122.oracle.com (aserv0122.oracle.com [141.146.126.236]) by aserv0022.oracle.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id v2PE8bhx002730 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=FAIL); Sat, 25 Mar 2017 14:08:37 GMT Original-Received: from abhmp0009.oracle.com (abhmp0009.oracle.com [141.146.116.15]) by aserv0122.oracle.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id v2PE8bx8000637; Sat, 25 Mar 2017 14:08:37 GMT In-Reply-To: <83tw6hbxji.fsf@gnu.org> X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Oracle Beehive Extensions for Outlook 2.0.1.9.1 (1003210) [OL 12.0.6753.5000 (x86)] X-Source-IP: aserv0022.oracle.com [141.146.126.234] X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 208.118.235.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:130926 Archived-At: > > In the Info manual, please provide more and better index entries for > > this node. A user should be able to find it using `i menu TAB'. >=20 > Done. You can now use any of > i menu RET > i star RET > i 3 RET > i third RET > i 6 RET > i sixth RET > to get to the "Choose menu subtopic" node. Thanks. > > 2. Using `i menu TAB' you can get to node `Menus and the =E2=80=98m=E2= =80=99 > > command' (which should be named `Menus and the =E2=80=98m=E2=80=99 Comm= and'). But > > from that node you cannot get to node ``1'-`9' choose a menu > > subtopic by its number'. Each of these nodes should have a > > cross-reference to the other. The first of these nodes purports > > to be the main node about menus. It should link to other nodes > > that talk about using menus. >=20 > I don't see why adding cross-references in that node would be a good > idea. That node is part of the "quick tour" section of the manual, > and as such it should not risk inadvertently showing to the reader > "advanced" features she didn't yet have chance reading about. It's also the main node you get to from `i menu'. There's nothing wrong with cross-referencing some "advanced" information from a "tour" node, as long as it is identified as such. I also mentioned an xref in the other direction. Link to general info about the menu and using `m', from the node about using 1-9. > > 3. The index entry `select N=E2=80=99th menu item' should use "Nth", no= t > > "N=E2=80=99th". >=20 > I don't understand why. I left that alone. Because it is not how nth is written in English. Or in Emacs, for that matter. > > 4. This node name, and some other node names in the manual, should use > > title case, not sentence case. E.g. `1'-`9' Choose a Menu Subtopic By > > its Number". (That title is anyway not so good. Put the 1-9 at the > > end, and remove the quotes.) >=20 > These are not node names, they are section/subsection names. OK. They are menu items, or menu-item descriptions. > This manual seems to have a consistent style regarding these names, > and I don't see why we should change its convention by another. How is it consistent regarding these menu items/descriptions? Some of them use title case and some use sentence case - in the same menu. Anyway, if you took care of #1 then thank you for that.