From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Drew Adams Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#15962: 24.3.50; emacs_backtrace.txt Date: Tue, 26 Nov 2013 21:59:37 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <0691bec9-b582-4681-8245-ee3d05225485@default> References: <<2797d3c5-cea9-4015-8cd6-f72da142a1d7@default>> <<83eh62a4er.fsf@gnu.org>> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1385532022 2328 80.91.229.3 (27 Nov 2013 06:00:22 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2013 06:00:22 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 15962@debbugs.gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Nov 27 07:00:26 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1VlYAi-0005Db-Cy for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 27 Nov 2013 07:00:24 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:34033 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VlYAi-0003Nf-08 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 27 Nov 2013 01:00:24 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:34061) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VlYAW-0003NE-PE for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 27 Nov 2013 01:00:21 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VlYAO-0000b6-6T for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 27 Nov 2013 01:00:12 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:32829) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VlYAO-0000ZR-3e for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 27 Nov 2013 01:00:04 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VlYAN-0005jC-6W for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 27 Nov 2013 01:00:03 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Drew Adams Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2013 06:00:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 15962 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: moreinfo Original-Received: via spool by 15962-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B15962.138553198721964 (code B ref 15962); Wed, 27 Nov 2013 06:00:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 15962) by debbugs.gnu.org; 27 Nov 2013 05:59:47 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:46847 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VlYA6-0005iC-TL for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 27 Nov 2013 00:59:47 -0500 Original-Received: from userp1040.oracle.com ([156.151.31.81]:49374) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VlYA5-0005hv-Dd for 15962@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 27 Nov 2013 00:59:45 -0500 Original-Received: from ucsinet21.oracle.com (ucsinet21.oracle.com [156.151.31.93]) by userp1040.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.3.1/Sentrion-MTA-4.3.1) with ESMTP id rAR5xcRE005106 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Wed, 27 Nov 2013 05:59:39 GMT Original-Received: from userz7021.oracle.com (userz7021.oracle.com [156.151.31.85]) by ucsinet21.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id rAR5xbH4009999 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 27 Nov 2013 05:59:38 GMT Original-Received: from abhmp0018.oracle.com (abhmp0018.oracle.com [141.146.116.24]) by userz7021.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id rAR5xbNI009975; Wed, 27 Nov 2013 05:59:37 GMT In-Reply-To: <<83eh62a4er.fsf@gnu.org>> X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Oracle Beehive Extensions for Outlook 2.0.1.8 (707110) [OL 12.0.6680.5000 (x86)] X-Source-IP: ucsinet21.oracle.com [156.151.31.93] X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:81022 Archived-At: > > So again, I cannot tell whether the `f5' had anything to do with the > > crash, since I clicked and hit `f5' so quickly. But my guess, offhand, > > is that the focus change was enough to provoke the crash. > > > > And this time I had just used that Emacs 24 frame a couple of minutes > > earlier. IOW, I did something in that frame, then I used Emacs 20 > > for a bit (maybe a minute), and then I clicked the Emacs 24 frame > > and got the crash. >=20 > OK, thanks. Can you describe your frame configuration, and tell which > one of those frames got clicked on? Not helpfully so, I'm afraid. The frame I clicked in and hit `f5' in was a thumbnail frame showing an emacs-lisp buffer. Dunno what other Emacs 24 frames I had at the time, but there was at least one other (Dired, details hidden), and probably they were all thumbnails as well, apart from the standalone minibuffer frame (which stretches across the bottom of my screen and is typically 2 lines tall). A thumbnail frame is just a tiny frame (shrunk by shrinking the frame font size), with no menu bar or tool bar (or minibuffer), but with a scroll bar. I doubt that these facts are significant. I don't recall whether the other crashes were similar those respects. I think at least one of them involved clicking in a normal-size frame. My unfounded guess is still that it is just the change of focus that provokes the crash.