From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Drew Adams Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#17644: 24.4.50; provide access to all mode-line lighters (e.g. those from C code) Date: Fri, 30 May 2014 08:34:27 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <067c46c8-34b1-4ba7-a5b0-1795e4fc75af@default> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1401464587 8031 80.91.229.3 (30 May 2014 15:43:07 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 30 May 2014 15:43:07 +0000 (UTC) To: 17644@debbugs.gnu.org Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri May 30 17:42:59 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1WqOxN-0000YU-V0 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 30 May 2014 17:42:58 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:55008 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WqOxN-0004am-Cz for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 30 May 2014 11:42:57 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:43984) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WqOqr-0002bP-6r for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 30 May 2014 11:36:23 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WqOqg-0004tv-Td for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 30 May 2014 11:36:13 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:39022) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WqOqg-0004tl-RI for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 30 May 2014 11:36:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WqOqf-0006yx-WE for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 30 May 2014 11:36:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Drew Adams Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 30 May 2014 15:36:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: report 17644 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: X-Debbugs-Original-To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-Received: via spool by submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B.140146412126761 (code B ref -1); Fri, 30 May 2014 15:36:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 30 May 2014 15:35:21 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:37899 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WqOpw-0006xR-CE for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 30 May 2014 11:35:20 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:41694) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WqOpq-0006x4-0I for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 30 May 2014 11:35:14 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WqOpa-0004NS-AU for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 30 May 2014 11:35:04 -0400 Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::11]:52123) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WqOpa-0004NO-7h for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 30 May 2014 11:34:54 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:43375) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WqOpQ-0000Sw-RE for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 30 May 2014 11:34:54 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WqOpD-0004CV-RW for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 30 May 2014 11:34:44 -0400 Original-Received: from userp1040.oracle.com ([156.151.31.81]:36771) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WqOpD-00049g-LT for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 30 May 2014 11:34:31 -0400 Original-Received: from acsinet21.oracle.com (acsinet21.oracle.com [141.146.126.237]) by userp1040.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2/Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2) with ESMTP id s4UFYTie017295 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK) for ; Fri, 30 May 2014 15:34:30 GMT Original-Received: from aserz7021.oracle.com (aserz7021.oracle.com [141.146.126.230]) by acsinet21.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id s4UFYSYj000580 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Fri, 30 May 2014 15:34:29 GMT Original-Received: from abhmp0009.oracle.com (abhmp0009.oracle.com [141.146.116.15]) by aserz7021.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id s4UFYSgi000571 for ; Fri, 30 May 2014 15:34:28 GMT X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Oracle Beehive Extensions for Outlook 2.0.1.8 (707110) [OL 12.0.6691.5000 (x86)] X-Source-IP: acsinet21.oracle.com [141.146.126.237] X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.4.x-2.6.x [generic] X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:89755 Archived-At: Elisp users can modify mode-line lighters for a major or a minor mode, using `mode-name' and `minor-mode-alist'. But they cannot modify (or even remove) other lighters that are added by Emacs C code. Please enhance Emacs by making this possible (from Lisp). For example, when the buffer is narrowed, the lighter `Narrow' appears. It is neither a major-mode lighter nor a minor-mode lighter. And there is no way for a programmer to modify it from Lisp. Please (a) document all such abnormal/extraneous lighters together, somewhere in the Elisp manual and (b) provide a means for users to access and modify them using Lisp. In GNU Emacs 24.4.50.1 (i686-pc-mingw32) of 2014-05-25 on ODIEONE Bzr revision: 117153 tsdh@gnu.org-20140525174054-vzeh4zeg00a1ley8 Windowing system distributor `Microsoft Corp.', version 6.1.7601 Configured using: `configure --prefix=3D/c/Devel/emacs/snapshot/trunk --enable-checking=3Dyes,glyphs 'CFLAGS=3D-O0 -g3' LDFLAGS=3D-Lc:/Devel/emacs/lib 'CPPFLAGS=3D-DGC_MCHECK=3D1 -Ic:/Devel/emacs/include''