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Dear Eli,
It don=E2=80=99t show up with the emacs -Q start, and not each time I start=
 emacs, but sometimes, and it=E2=80=99s (for me) clear, that what =E2=80=99=
s bother the system.
Neither you or me should vaste too much time, as it=E2=80=99 not really an =
error, just a warning for the time being.

med venlig hilsen
Niels

> Den 20. feb. 2024 kl. 14.40 skrev Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>:
>=20
>> Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2024 02:10:11 +0100
>> From: Niels S=C3=B8ndergaard <niels@algon.dk>
>>=20
>> Starting emacs from a newbuild version from sources 30.0.50 gives this w=
arning:=20
>>=20
>> Warning (bytecomp): =E2=80=98pcase--flip=E2=80=99 is an obsolete macro (=
as of 30.1); use =E2=80=98_=E2=80=99 instead. [2 times]
>>=20
>> The pcase=E2=80=94flip is found in =E2=80=9Cemacs-lisp/pcase.el=E2=80=9D=
 and =E2=80=9Cemacs-lisp/map.el=E2=80=9D .
>>=20
>> This is not fatal, but annoying.
>=20
> I cannot reproduce this with the current master branch.  Could you
> please post a recipe for reproducing the problem, starting from
> "emacs -Q"?


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=3Dutf-8"/></head><body>Dear Eli,<br/>It don=E2=80=99t show up with the ema=
cs -Q start, and not each time I start emacs, but sometimes, and it=E2=80=
=99s (for me) clear, that what =E2=80=99s bother the system.<br/>Neither yo=
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