From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Gregory Heytings Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#51475: read-char-choice should hide the cursor Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2021 08:48:00 +0000 Message-ID: <04203f3946288e3a9305@heytings.org> References: <_THq5ypB0YkWSi2rpEAmoEqTA-YZ6yyHoz8z8_DjpB-ER134WTz00UDJ4_-Z-9y_AskMwozCw0Ji-E855Ip9g5rUxaAMcdQXzp2xGAKl_0o=@protonmail.com> <87o878yo8c.fsf@gnus.org> <8735ojvfap.fsf@gnus.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="10792"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: ndame , Lars Ingebrigtsen , 51475@debbugs.gnu.org, Daniel =?UTF-8?Q?Mart=C3=ADn?= To: Stefan Kangas Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sat Oct 30 10:49:11 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mgk34-0002YZ-TS for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 30 Oct 2021 10:49:11 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:52060 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mgk33-0001KL-OF for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 30 Oct 2021 04:49:09 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:37416) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mgk2v-0001Ig-UF for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 30 Oct 2021 04:49:01 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:45069) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mgk2v-0000Jb-Me for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 30 Oct 2021 04:49:01 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mgk2v-0007nM-Ly for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 30 Oct 2021 04:49:01 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Gregory Heytings Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2021 08:49:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 51475 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: moreinfo Original-Received: via spool by 51475-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B51475.163558368529888 (code B ref 51475); Sat, 30 Oct 2021 08:49:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 51475) by debbugs.gnu.org; 30 Oct 2021 08:48:05 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:56615 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mgk21-0007lz-9P for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 30 Oct 2021 04:48:05 -0400 Original-Received: from heytings.org ([95.142.160.155]:41704) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mgk1y-0007lG-Ow for 51475@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 30 Oct 2021 04:48:03 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=heytings.org; s=20210101; t=1635583680; bh=xZtoz5Hxsw+ql1tTb1Dpi8VH//QS8iFkh3wF2pe93pw=; h=Date:From:To:cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:Message-ID:References:From; b=toNi890TJKMJZsV+1ZVZrARV3hAWRRvdt9kDExkoCJPNIacYJofWiGoQCDqPE77Fo ea41rGYPglbfJ3QU7QU7tJ31pvwLqsb+04QEbYmPWNp1PsC5PdzbeWjvuYJ3a9Nr9w Zw+U0sJBCT2yYo7qtZIqP5Ei6eXRAqbHDL38wod0oETX7fnsBPAeMt9Qpy6gpXdgsX RfprbpLgeZvQ3Ez14/I11q79R9wDZEobgSYO7JJGGFsjxaokNT2+BmAYfkC2Ff9rK8 kCRto5jdwAaMmarTHytzfyJvK6sxKZUYtdyQ9cG+B3hFnDOhIqEZDOfgqEJlAphQne v2snTdj/ke8Lg== In-Reply-To: X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:218602 Archived-At: > > Transient does the same, and I always found that to be a very natural > interface. > > The same thing if you just press "C-x" and wait a second. > These two examples do not use a minibuffer, they use the echo area. >> I'd prefer if we decide if the cursor is always visible or invisible. >> >> [...] >> >> If there's no agreement, I think leaving things as is is > > I agree with both of these ideas, so that we can keep the Emacs > interface a tiny bit more consistent. > FWIW, I strongly disagree with the "always" idea. There are cases where seeing a cursor is perhaps not important and perhaps undesirable, but there are many cases where seeing visually that the selected window has changed and that the active cursor has moved to the minibuffer is important, such as when you press C-x C-c with a non-saved file-visiting buffer, and/or when you (fset 'yes-or-no-p 'y-or-n-p).