From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Jesse W Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#1988: Making the license statement visible in the Emacs Manual Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 10:33:59 -0800 Message-ID: <04046cff34a90137681ef7ff3e6b20a3@netwood.net> References: <5a2a250371fc35f0a3f8029fcc17754d@netwood.net> Reply-To: Jesse W , 1988@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v624) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1233000572 7205 80.91.229.12 (26 Jan 2009 20:09:32 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 20:09:32 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 1988@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com To: Glenn Morris Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Jan 26 21:10:43 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1LRXmf-000131-My for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 21:10:15 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:58312 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1LRXlN-0007Cr-U2 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 15:08:53 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1LRWQp-0004jV-Sp for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 13:43:35 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1LRWQn-0004hS-L9 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 13:43:34 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=48718 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1LRWQm-0004hC-MM for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 13:43:32 -0500 Original-Received: from rzlab.ucr.edu ([138.23.92.77]:37620) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1LRWQl-0005zU-Pm for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 13:43:32 -0500 Original-Received: from rzlab.ucr.edu (rzlab.ucr.edu [127.0.0.1]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id n0QIhTps023249; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 10:43:29 -0800 Original-Received: (from debbugs@localhost) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) id n0QIe4Wu022180; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 10:40:04 -0800 X-Loop: owner@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com Resent-From: Jesse W Resent-To: bug-submit-list@donarmstrong.com Resent-CC: Emacs Bugs , owner@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com Resent-Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 18:40:04 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: owner@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com X-Emacs-PR-Message: followup 1988 X-Emacs-PR-Package: emacs,documentation X-Emacs-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 1988-submit@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com id=B1988.123299485120847 (code B ref 1988); Mon, 26 Jan 2009 18:40:04 +0000 Original-Received: (at 1988) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 26 Jan 2009 18:34:11 +0000 X-Spam-Bayes: score:0.5 Bayes not run. spammytokens:Tokens not available. hammytokens:Tokens not available. Original-Received: from mx7.netwood.net (mx7.netwood.net [209.247.184.8]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id n0QIY4ab020839 for <1988@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com>; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 10:34:05 -0800 Original-Received: from netwood.net (mail.netwood.net [209.247.184.35]) by mx7.netwood.net (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id n0QIXvFP084766; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 10:33:59 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jessw@netwood.net) Original-Received: from [192.168.1.248] [67.150.2.199] by netwood.net with ESMTP (SMTPD-8.22) id A214042C; Mon, 26 Jan 2009 10:33:56 -0800 In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.624) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.94/8905/Mon Jan 26 09:29:36 2009 on mx7.netwood.net X-Virus-Status: Clean X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) Resent-Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 13:43:34 -0500 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 14:27:03 -0500 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:24568 Archived-At: On Jan 25, 2009, at 11:38 PM, Glenn Morris wrote: > Jesse W wrote: >> Currently, in the displayed HTML of the Emacs Manual, there is nothing >> the specifically says it is released under the GFDL (GNU Free >> Documentation License), and what the Invariant Sections and >> Cover-Texts >> are. It's in an HTML comment, but there isn't even a note in the >> rendered text to tell you to look there. > > The Emacs manual uses the standard texinfo @copying command to specify > this information; so I'd say that this was a texinfo issue rather than > an Emacs issue. Perhaps you can check on the texinfo list (?) if this > has been discussed? There is a specific texinfo @ command, @insertcopying, which is designed to make the @copying information visible. See http://www.gnu.org/software/texinfo/manual/texinfo/html_node/ insertcopying.html#insertcopying There does not seem to have been discussion about it on the texinfo-bug list. I'm suggesting that the Emacs Manual be modified either to 1) Include the @insertcopying command at the beginning of the document, so the license grant is visible in all the formats, or 2) Insert a note that tells people to look in the HTML/texinfo source code for the license grant. This is not a texinfo problem. Jesse Weinstein