From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Drew Adams" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#3395: 23.0.94; Remove colon after option etc. name Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2011 10:19:23 -0700 Message-ID: <03186A7D9C1242F28620E550234CAB3E@us.oracle.com> References: <43B19EE291914BCFA51EC5AFA8C91ADB@us.oracle.com><8DDC936FF10748F9978A1579E9DB7946@us.oracle.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1310406276 2388 80.91.229.12 (11 Jul 2011 17:44:36 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2011 17:44:36 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 3395@debbugs.gnu.org To: "'Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen'" Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Jul 11 19:44:32 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QgKX2-0007Dk-Bx for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 11 Jul 2011 19:44:32 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:42404 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QgKX1-0001tI-HN for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 11 Jul 2011 13:44:31 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:51969) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QgK9P-0004cq-C1 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 11 Jul 2011 13:20:08 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QgK9N-0005wV-IL for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 11 Jul 2011 13:20:06 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:36937) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QgK9M-0005v0-LS for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 11 Jul 2011 13:20:04 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QgK9L-0006aE-6n; Mon, 11 Jul 2011 13:20:03 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: "Drew Adams" Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-To: owner@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2011 17:20:03 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 3395 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: wontfix Original-Received: via spool by 3395-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B3395.131040478125268 (code B ref 3395); Mon, 11 Jul 2011 17:20:03 +0000 Original-Received: (at 3395) by debbugs.gnu.org; 11 Jul 2011 17:19:41 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QgK8y-0006ZU-V3 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 11 Jul 2011 13:19:41 -0400 Original-Received: from rcsinet15.oracle.com ([148.87.113.117]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QgK8w-0006ZH-JX for 3395@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 11 Jul 2011 13:19:39 -0400 Original-Received: from acsinet21.oracle.com (acsinet21.oracle.com [141.146.126.237]) by rcsinet15.oracle.com (Switch-3.4.4/Switch-3.4.4) with ESMTP id p6BHJU9n032568 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Mon, 11 Jul 2011 17:19:32 GMT Original-Received: from acsmt357.oracle.com (acsmt357.oracle.com [141.146.40.157]) by acsinet21.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id p6BHJSBO017095 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 11 Jul 2011 17:19:30 GMT Original-Received: from abhmt110.oracle.com (abhmt110.oracle.com [141.146.116.62]) by acsmt357.oracle.com (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id p6BHJNDI001441; Mon, 11 Jul 2011 12:19:23 -0500 Original-Received: from dradamslap1 (/130.35.178.194) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Mon, 11 Jul 2011 10:19:23 -0700 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: Thread-Index: Acw/7LzXTcHT4ifxSaS+LlLUCUTTdwAAKotw X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.6109 X-Source-IP: acsinet21.oracle.com [141.146.126.237] X-Auth-Type: Internal IP X-CT-RefId: str=0001.0A090203.4E1B30A4.00CD:SCFMA922111,ss=1,re=-4.000,fgs=0 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list Resent-Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2011 13:20:03 -0400 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:48628 Archived-At: > If these functions pick up the symbol as intended, I don't > see what the problem is. Right, you do not see. > > The buffer syntax should be that of Emacs Lisp. > > It's not an Emacs Lisp buffer. It's a text buffer that may have some > Emacs Lisp symbols in it. True. If you can make all of the Lisp symbols in the buffer have Lisp syntax, without making the rest of the buffer have Lisp syntax, then fine. > > Arbitrary functions that pick up (Lisp) symbol names should and will > > then pick up a `:' as part of a symbol name. > > The arbitrary functions should use `symbol-at-point' or the like. Then they aren't arbitrary. Why argue about that? A function that picks up a Lisp symbol name will & should pick up `:' as part of that name, provided the buffer syntax is `emacs-lisp-mode-syntax-table'. And yes, that's true also of `symbol-at-point', BTW. In an Emacs-Lisp mode buffer, type `foo:bar', put the cursor on the `:', and do `M-: (symbol-at-point)'. The value is `foo:bar'. > > Because of this, we should remove this colon, which is anyway > > unnecessary. > > It looks nice. I'm closing this bug report. It hampers usability. And it adds nothing to readability in that position. It is followed by a menu button or an editable field (gray background).