From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Drew Adams Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#15962: 24.3.50; emacs_backtrace.txt Date: Mon, 25 Nov 2013 09:39:13 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <02411a5e-6c74-41ed-9989-44c5c9a05a15@default> References: <<5a4902b7-cb15-4088-9307-dcf1fb3008b7@default>> <<838uwcbddg.fsf@gnu.org>> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1385401219 7822 80.91.229.3 (25 Nov 2013 17:40:19 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 25 Nov 2013 17:40:19 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 15962@debbugs.gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Nov 25 18:40:23 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Vl091-0005bp-FC for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 25 Nov 2013 18:40:23 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:54096 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Vl091-0003Hi-18 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 25 Nov 2013 12:40:23 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:55813) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Vl08q-0003AH-2q for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 25 Nov 2013 12:40:19 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Vl08i-0007wi-I9 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 25 Nov 2013 12:40:12 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:59055) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Vl08i-0007vw-7f for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 25 Nov 2013 12:40:04 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Vl08h-0004aq-1j for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 25 Nov 2013 12:40:03 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Drew Adams Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 25 Nov 2013 17:40:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 15962 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: moreinfo Original-Received: via spool by 15962-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B15962.138540116617598 (code B ref 15962); Mon, 25 Nov 2013 17:40:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 15962) by debbugs.gnu.org; 25 Nov 2013 17:39:26 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:44841 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Vl084-0004Zl-S8 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 25 Nov 2013 12:39:25 -0500 Original-Received: from aserp1040.oracle.com ([141.146.126.69]:41680) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Vl081-0004Z4-P5 for 15962@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 25 Nov 2013 12:39:22 -0500 Original-Received: from acsinet22.oracle.com (acsinet22.oracle.com [141.146.126.238]) by aserp1040.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.3.1/Sentrion-MTA-4.3.1) with ESMTP id rAPHdFHe019307 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Mon, 25 Nov 2013 17:39:15 GMT Original-Received: from aserz7021.oracle.com (aserz7021.oracle.com [141.146.126.230]) by acsinet22.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id rAPHdERW004526 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 25 Nov 2013 17:39:14 GMT Original-Received: from abhmp0005.oracle.com (abhmp0005.oracle.com [141.146.116.11]) by aserz7021.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id rAPHdEdu006903; Mon, 25 Nov 2013 17:39:14 GMT In-Reply-To: <<838uwcbddg.fsf@gnu.org>> X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Oracle Beehive Extensions for Outlook 2.0.1.8 (707110) [OL 12.0.6680.5000 (x86)] X-Source-IP: acsinet22.oracle.com [141.146.126.238] X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:80957 Archived-At: > > But the backtrace, however inaccurate, is genuine - not at all bogus; > > I can assure you of that. >=20 > I didn't think otherwise. By "bogus" I meant that the data was > garbled, not that it was sabotaged. I see. Yes, there is a slang sense it which "bogus" can indicate something "displeasing, of poor quality, or 'uncool'". http://onlineslangdictionary.com/meaning-definition-of/bogus But in general it means fake, not genuine. (Google "bogus definition".) not genuine or true; fake counterfeit or fake; not genuine not real or genuine: fake or false not genuine; counterfeit; spurious; sham fraudulent, pseudo, fake, phony spurious or counterfeit; not genuine ... Origin:=20 1825-30, Americanism; originally an apparatus for coining false money; perhaps akin to bogy Word Origin & History - bogus=20 "counterfeit money," 1839, Amer.Eng., apparently from a slang word applied in Ohio in 1827 to a counterfeiter's apparatus. Some trace this to tantrabobus, a late 18c. colloquial Vermont word for any odd-looking object, which may be connected to tantarabobs, recorded as a Devonshire name for the devil.