From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Drew Adams Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#14762: 24.3.50; hurdles getting Emacs to show images on MS Windows Date: Fri, 5 Jul 2013 08:55:47 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <02324b26-84b3-42bf-afff-ece87889dd20@default> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1373039770 8995 80.91.229.3 (5 Jul 2013 15:56:10 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 5 Jul 2013 15:56:10 +0000 (UTC) To: 14762@debbugs.gnu.org Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Jul 05 17:56:10 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Uv8Mj-0007S8-Cg for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 05 Jul 2013 17:56:09 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:56871 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Uv8Mj-0005Zi-3X for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 05 Jul 2013 11:56:09 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:47500) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Uv8Me-0005ZM-QS for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 05 Jul 2013 11:56:05 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Uv8Md-0001Ch-EJ for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 05 Jul 2013 11:56:04 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:37919) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Uv8Md-0001Cc-BE for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 05 Jul 2013 11:56:03 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Uv8Mc-0002LP-MT for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 05 Jul 2013 11:56:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Drew Adams Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 05 Jul 2013 15:56:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 14762 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs,w32 X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 14762-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B14762.13730397619002 (code B ref 14762); Fri, 05 Jul 2013 15:56:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 14762) by debbugs.gnu.org; 5 Jul 2013 15:56:01 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:60468 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Uv8Ma-0002L7-RA for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 05 Jul 2013 11:56:01 -0400 Original-Received: from userp1040.oracle.com ([156.151.31.81]:42244) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Uv8MY-0002Kk-3t for 14762@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 05 Jul 2013 11:55:58 -0400 Original-Received: from acsinet22.oracle.com (acsinet22.oracle.com [141.146.126.238]) by userp1040.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.3.1/Sentrion-MTA-4.3.1) with ESMTP id r65FtpHO019546 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK) for <14762@debbugs.gnu.org>; Fri, 5 Jul 2013 15:55:52 GMT Original-Received: from userz7022.oracle.com (userz7022.oracle.com [156.151.31.86]) by acsinet22.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id r65FtoV0029206 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for <14762@debbugs.gnu.org>; Fri, 5 Jul 2013 15:55:51 GMT Original-Received: from abhmt106.oracle.com (abhmt106.oracle.com [141.146.116.58]) by userz7022.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id r65FtoDk001440 for <14762@debbugs.gnu.org>; Fri, 5 Jul 2013 15:55:50 GMT In-Reply-To: X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Oracle Beehive Extensions for Outlook 2.0.1.7 (607090) [OL 12.0.6668.5000 (x86)] X-Source-IP: acsinet22.oracle.com [141.146.126.238] X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:75955 Archived-At: > 3. IMHO, there could - should - be some guidance in the *Emacs manual* > about how to get image support for GNU Emacs, including on MS Windows. >=20 > 4. Better - much better - would be to include image support in GNU Emacs > out of the box. On MS Windows. And that is what users, especially new > users, EXPECT, and SHOULD expect. Let me add that the requirement that `image-dired' needs Imagemagick installed should also be documented in the manual (it is currently mentioned only in the image-dired.el Commentary AFAICT. The Emacs manual should provide a complete recipe for users to provide Emacs with image support. But again, #4 is really the way to go. Just documenting how a user could make Emacs usable is no real substitute for making it usable out of the box.