* bug#25375: 25.1; how to configure (x-)select-enable-primary compatible with emacs24
@ 2017-01-06 11:59 David Bremner
2017-01-06 13:26 ` Eli Zaretskii
0 siblings, 1 reply; 7+ messages in thread
From: David Bremner @ 2017-01-06 11:59 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: 25375
Like many people I share emacs configuration between emacs 24 and emacs
25.
Emacs 25.1 customize wants to clean up by deleting obsolete variables,
and in particular x-select-enable-primary. Unfortunately this breaks my
workflow for for emacs 24.
I'd happily update my configuration to use select-enable-primary, except
that that variable is not present in emacs 24.5. I believe the docstring
for select-enable-primary is incorrect in stating the variable is
available since 24.1
In GNU Emacs 25.1.1 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 3.22.4)
of 2016-11-30, modified by Debian built on trouble
Windowing system distributor 'The X.Org Foundation', version 11.0.11900000
System Description: Debian GNU/Linux testing (stretch)
Configured using:
'configure --build x86_64-linux-gnu --prefix=/usr
--sharedstatedir=/var/lib --libexecdir=/usr/lib
--localstatedir=/var/lib --infodir=/usr/share/info
--mandir=/usr/share/man --with-pop=yes
--enable-locallisppath=/etc/emacs25:/etc/emacs:/usr/local/share/emacs/25.1/site-lisp:/usr/local/share/emacs/site-lisp:/usr/share/emacs/25.1/site-lisp:/usr/share/emacs/site-lisp
--with-sound=alsa --build x86_64-linux-gnu --prefix=/usr
--sharedstatedir=/var/lib --libexecdir=/usr/lib
--localstatedir=/var/lib --infodir=/usr/share/info
--mandir=/usr/share/man --with-pop=yes
--enable-locallisppath=/etc/emacs25:/etc/emacs:/usr/local/share/emacs/25.1/site-lisp:/usr/local/share/emacs/site-lisp:/usr/share/emacs/25.1/site-lisp:/usr/share/emacs/site-lisp
--with-sound=alsa --with-x=yes --with-x-toolkit=gtk3
--with-toolkit-scroll-bars 'CFLAGS=-g -O2
-fdebug-prefix-map=/build/emacs25-Fs4LPA/emacs25-25.1+1=. -fstack-protector-strong
-Wformat -Werror=format-security -Wall' 'CPPFLAGS=-Wdate-time
-D_FORTIFY_SOURCE=2' LDFLAGS=-Wl,-z,relro'
Configured features:
XPM JPEG TIFF GIF PNG RSVG IMAGEMAGICK SOUND GPM DBUS GCONF GSETTINGS
NOTIFY ACL LIBSELINUX GNUTLS LIBXML2 FREETYPE M17N_FLT LIBOTF XFT ZLIB
TOOLKIT_SCROLL_BARS GTK3 X11
Important settings:
value of $LANG: en_CA.UTF-8
locale-coding-system: utf-8-unix
Major mode: Message[Notmuch]
Minor modes in effect:
company-mode: t
magit-auto-revert-mode: t
global-git-commit-mode: t
mml-mode: t
async-bytecomp-package-mode: t
shell-dirtrack-mode: t
diff-auto-refine-mode: t
tracking-mode: t
tooltip-mode: t
global-eldoc-mode: t
electric-indent-mode: t
mouse-wheel-mode: t
menu-bar-mode: t
file-name-shadow-mode: t
global-font-lock-mode: t
font-lock-mode: t
auto-composition-mode: t
auto-encryption-mode: t
auto-compression-mode: t
line-number-mode: t
auto-fill-function: message-do-auto-fill
transient-mark-mode: t
abbrev-mode: t
Recent messages:
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* bug#25375: 25.1; how to configure (x-)select-enable-primary compatible with emacs24
2017-01-06 11:59 bug#25375: 25.1; how to configure (x-)select-enable-primary compatible with emacs24 David Bremner
@ 2017-01-06 13:26 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-01-06 13:49 ` David Bremner
0 siblings, 1 reply; 7+ messages in thread
From: Eli Zaretskii @ 2017-01-06 13:26 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: David Bremner; +Cc: 25375
> From: David Bremner <david@tethera.net>
> Date: Fri, 06 Jan 2017 07:59:06 -0400
>
> Like many people I share emacs configuration between emacs 24 and emacs
> 25.
>
> Emacs 25.1 customize wants to clean up by deleting obsolete variables,
> and in particular x-select-enable-primary. Unfortunately this breaks my
> workflow for for emacs 24.
Can you describe the scenario in more detail? Are you customarily run
customize, even after your basic configuration is set up? Otherwise,
I don't understand what is the trigger for that "cleanup".
> I believe the docstring for select-enable-primary is incorrect in
> stating the variable is available since 24.1
Yes, that appears to be a typo; I fixed it now.
Thanks.
^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 7+ messages in thread
* bug#25375: 25.1; how to configure (x-)select-enable-primary compatible with emacs24
2017-01-06 13:26 ` Eli Zaretskii
@ 2017-01-06 13:49 ` David Bremner
2017-01-06 14:13 ` Eli Zaretskii
[not found] ` <<83eg0gcm4t.fsf@gnu.org>
0 siblings, 2 replies; 7+ messages in thread
From: David Bremner @ 2017-01-06 13:49 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Eli Zaretskii; +Cc: 25375
Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:
> Can you describe the scenario in more detail? Are you customarily run
> customize, even after your basic configuration is set up? Otherwise,
> I don't understand what is the trigger for that "cleanup".
Yes, once or twice a week I change some setting using customize while
using emacs25, and the cleanup is triggered then. I use a few
"applications" in emacs like IRC (circe) and email (notmuch) that have a
fairly dynamic set of settings.
I guess I could migrate the setting of x-select-enable-primary out of
customize and into my init.el. I wonder if maybe there should have been
a period of deprecation before marking the variables obsolete. I guess
that can't be helped now in any case.
d
^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 7+ messages in thread
* bug#25375: 25.1; how to configure (x-)select-enable-primary compatible with emacs24
2017-01-06 13:49 ` David Bremner
@ 2017-01-06 14:13 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-01-06 14:25 ` David Bremner
[not found] ` <<83eg0gcm4t.fsf@gnu.org>
1 sibling, 1 reply; 7+ messages in thread
From: Eli Zaretskii @ 2017-01-06 14:13 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: David Bremner; +Cc: 25375
> From: David Bremner <david@tethera.net>
> Cc: 25375@debbugs.gnu.org
> Date: Fri, 06 Jan 2017 09:49:47 -0400
>
> I guess I could migrate the setting of x-select-enable-primary out of
> customize and into my init.el.
I think a better idea is to use different customization files for
different Emacs versions. The Emacs user manual shows how to do that
in "Saving Customizations".
> I wonder if maybe there should have been a period of deprecation
> before marking the variables obsolete.
Declaring a variable obsolete _is_ the indication that it's
deprecated.
^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 7+ messages in thread
* bug#25375: 25.1; how to configure (x-)select-enable-primary compatible with emacs24
2017-01-06 14:13 ` Eli Zaretskii
@ 2017-01-06 14:25 ` David Bremner
2017-01-06 14:39 ` Eli Zaretskii
0 siblings, 1 reply; 7+ messages in thread
From: David Bremner @ 2017-01-06 14:25 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Eli Zaretskii; +Cc: 25375
Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:
>> I guess I could migrate the setting of x-select-enable-primary out of
>> customize and into my init.el.
>
> I think a better idea is to use different customization files for
> different Emacs versions. The Emacs user manual shows how to do that
> in "Saving Customizations".
>
That solution forces me to keep the two files synchronized. I don't see
an easy way to do that.
d
^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 7+ messages in thread
* bug#25375: 25.1; how to configure (x-)select-enable-primary compatible with emacs24
2017-01-06 14:25 ` David Bremner
@ 2017-01-06 14:39 ` Eli Zaretskii
0 siblings, 0 replies; 7+ messages in thread
From: Eli Zaretskii @ 2017-01-06 14:39 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: David Bremner; +Cc: 25375
> From: David Bremner <david@tethera.net>
> Cc: 25375@debbugs.gnu.org
> Date: Fri, 06 Jan 2017 10:25:45 -0400
>
> > I think a better idea is to use different customization files for
> > different Emacs versions. The Emacs user manual shows how to do that
> > in "Saving Customizations".
> >
>
> That solution forces me to keep the two files synchronized. I don't see
> an easy way to do that.
Keep the common part in one place, and the disparate parts separate?
^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 7+ messages in thread
* bug#25375: 25.1; how to configure (x-)select-enable-primary compatible with emacs24
[not found] ` <<83eg0gcm4t.fsf@gnu.org>
@ 2017-01-06 14:55 ` Drew Adams
0 siblings, 0 replies; 7+ messages in thread
From: Drew Adams @ 2017-01-06 14:55 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Eli Zaretskii, David Bremner; +Cc: 25375
> > I guess I could migrate the setting of x-select-enable-primary out of
> > customize and into my init.el.
>
> I think a better idea is to use different customization files for
> different Emacs versions. The Emacs user manual shows how to do that
> in "Saving Customizations".
>
> > I wonder if maybe there should have been a period of deprecation
> > before marking the variables obsolete.
>
> Declaring a variable obsolete _is_ the indication that it's
> deprecated.
That's your definition, for Emacs development. They are not
the same thing, in general.
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=obsolete+vs+deprecated
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