From: Paul Eggert <eggert@cs.ucla.edu>
To: rms@gnu.org
Cc: 72145@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#72145: rare Emacs screwups on x86 due to GCC bug 58416
Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2024 05:38:26 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <01f0f261-60af-4282-ae1b-9f3c4e8b2ed3@cs.ucla.edu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <E1sUHiZ-0005qB-7B@fencepost.gnu.org>
On 2024-07-17 20:22, Richard Stallman wrote:
> > * Rewrite Emacs to never use 'double' (or 'float' or 'long double')
> > inside a union. This could be painful and hardly seems worthwhile.
>
> Where does Emacs use those types inside a union?
> Maybe this is not difficult.
I found the bug in src/timefns.c, which uses a union to represent
timestamp forms (one of which represents an Emacs float). Other uses
that come to mind are src/lisp.h's struct Lisp_Float, which uses a union
to save space when representing Lisp floats, and src/lread.c's and
src/print.c's use of <ieee754.h>'s unions to deal with NaNs when reading
and printing Lisp floats. Although I have not done an audit I expect
there are other places too, and I expect it would take some time to
audit, rewrite and thoroughly test Emacs to not use floating point in
these places, with runtime performance degraded somewhat as a result.
Although that effort might be worth it if the bug was likely and there
was no other workaround, the bug is quite rare (we've lived with it for
decades and I'm the first person to notice it, or at least track it
down), and with the proposed compiler-flag workaround the remaining
affected platforms are so obsolescent (decades-old CPUs) that they're
also rare. I doubt whether it's worth significantly contorting the C
code (possibly introducing bugs on mainstream platforms) to fix these
exceedingly rare bugs in obsolescent platforms.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-07-18 12:38 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-07-16 23:26 bug#72145: rare Emacs screwups on x86 due to GCC bug 58416 Paul Eggert
2024-07-17 0:57 ` Po Lu via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-07-17 5:01 ` Paul Eggert
2024-07-17 21:56 ` Paul Eggert
2024-07-18 2:39 ` Po Lu via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-07-18 5:14 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-07-18 3:22 ` Richard Stallman
2024-07-18 12:38 ` Paul Eggert [this message]
2024-07-18 15:19 ` Pip Cet via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-07-19 21:31 ` Paul Eggert
2024-08-22 6:44 ` Paul Eggert
2024-07-18 14:19 ` Andrea Corallo
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