From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Drew Adams" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#1305: All code that currently beeps should use visual bellinstead Date: Sun, 9 Nov 2008 11:19:43 -0800 Message-ID: <00ad01c942a0$1f49ca60$0200a8c0@us.oracle.com> References: <009901c9421f$5bd0a6b0$0200a8c0@us.oracle.com> Reply-To: Drew Adams , 1305@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1226259048 20384 80.91.229.12 (9 Nov 2008 19:30:48 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 9 Nov 2008 19:30:48 +0000 (UTC) Cc: jasonspiro4@gmail.com, bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org To: "'Eli Zaretskii'" , <1305@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com> Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Nov 09 20:31:49 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1KzG0h-0007cQ-TS for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 09 Nov 2008 20:31:48 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:59895 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KzFza-0001if-5J for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 09 Nov 2008 14:30:38 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KzFzT-0001h6-EX for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 09 Nov 2008 14:30:32 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KzFzD-0001Vw-UT for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 09 Nov 2008 14:30:17 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=44981 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KzFzA-0001VD-Rc for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 09 Nov 2008 14:30:12 -0500 Original-Received: from rzlab.ucr.edu ([138.23.92.77]:52134) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1KzFz9-0001Qp-Ks for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 09 Nov 2008 14:30:11 -0500 Original-Received: from rzlab.ucr.edu (rzlab.ucr.edu [127.0.0.1]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id mA9JU6kc000612; Sun, 9 Nov 2008 11:30:06 -0800 Original-Received: (from debbugs@localhost) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) id mA9JP4NO031724; Sun, 9 Nov 2008 11:25:04 -0800 X-Loop: don@donarmstrong.com Resent-From: "Drew Adams" Resent-To: bug-submit-list@donarmstrong.com Resent-CC: Emacs Bugs Resent-Date: Sun, 09 Nov 2008 19:25:04 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: don@donarmstrong.com X-Emacs-PR-Message: report 1305 X-Emacs-PR-Package: emacs X-Emacs-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 1305-submit@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com id=B1305.122625838730396 (code B ref 1305); Sun, 09 Nov 2008 19:25:04 +0000 Original-Received: (at 1305) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 9 Nov 2008 19:19:47 +0000 Original-Received: from rgminet11.oracle.com (rcsinet11.oracle.com [148.87.113.123]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id mA9JJiI9030390 for <1305@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com>; Sun, 9 Nov 2008 11:19:45 -0800 Original-Received: from rgminet15.oracle.com (rcsinet15.oracle.com [148.87.113.117]) by rgminet11.oracle.com (Switch-3.3.1/Switch-3.3.1) with ESMTP id mA9JK4gq012623 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Sun, 9 Nov 2008 19:20:05 GMT Original-Received: from acsmt701.oracle.com (acsmt701.oracle.com [141.146.40.71]) by rgminet15.oracle.com (Switch-3.3.1/Switch-3.3.1) with ESMTP id mA9JJc6N008571; Sun, 9 Nov 2008 19:19:39 GMT Original-Received: from dradamslap1 (/24.23.165.218) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Sun, 09 Nov 2008 19:19:34 +0000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Thread-Index: AclCnoA1AHgUPXsVSym+E+RRXWDfpAAASjXA X-Source-IP: acsmt701.oracle.com [141.146.40.71] X-Auth-Type: Internal IP X-CT-RefId: str=0001.0A090204.491737C8.0049:SCFSTAT928724,ss=1,fgs=0 X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) Resent-Date: Sun, 09 Nov 2008 14:30:17 -0500 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:22243 Archived-At: > > This possibility of turning off or down the bell at the > > computer level should not be removed. > > I think you are barking the wrong tree: no one suggested to remove the > possibility to shut up the bell. If the bell is systematically replaced by the visible bell, then turning off the sound at the computer level will not remove the distraction. The sound distraction, which you can easily turn off outside Emacs, will have been replaced by a sight distraction, which you cannot. > > If you think there are currently too many places where > > Emacs beeps, try instead to remove some of those beeps on a > > case-by-case basis. > > That is what I suggested in the first place, and I still think it's > the best alternative. Two votes, then.