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From: Tak Kunihiro <tkk@misasa.okayama-u.ac.jp>
To: Juri Linkov <juri@linkov.net>
Cc: "Alan Third" <alan@idiocy.org>,
	"Mattias Engdegård" <mattiase@acm.org>,
	国広卓也 <tkk@misasa.okayama-u.ac.jp>,
	50067@debbugs.gnu.org, "Lars Ingebrigtsen" <larsi@gnus.org>
Subject: bug#50067: Context menus
Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2021 12:11:27 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <00A9BE5A-D661-42AF-A65B-3B80C7428121@misasa.okayama-u.ac.jp> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87lf4tews5.fsf@mail.linkov.net>

>> I suggest to assign [drag-mouse-3] as well, as shown below.
>> 
>> (define-key map [mouse-3] context-menu-entry)
>> (define-key map [drag-mouse-3] context-menu-entry)
> 
> There is no need to bind [drag-mouse-3] because [down-mouse-3] is bound.

I confirmed. I took the suggestion back.

>> On Mac, I suggest to assign [C-double-mouse-1] as well as shown below.
>> 
>> (define-key map [C-down-mouse-1] #'ignore)
>> (define-key map [C-mouse-1] context-menu-entry)
>> (define-key map [C-double-mouse-1] context-menu-entry)
>> (define-key map [C-triple-mouse-1] context-menu-entry)
>> (define-key map [C-drag-mouse-1] context-menu-entry)
> 
> I leave this for the users of Mac to decide what would be better on Mac.

I agree.  User can bind it later too.

>> * Error detection system
>> 
>> It is good if the context-menu system is ready for
>> an error that occurs on one of context-menu-functions.
>> For now, when there is error, Emacs only tells
>> `<mouse-3> is undefined'.
> 
> I agree, a better error reporting would be nice.  Patches welcome.

This is something I wanted to have for a long time.  I do not have
idea where to start. I hope someone works on this using this opportunity.

>> * Long click system
>> 
>> It’s time to discuss long-left-click also as trigger to
>> show context menu.
>> 
>> https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2017-11/msg00267.html
>> https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2020-09/msg01277.html
> 
> I tried to implement this, but soon found that long-left-click is unusable,
> because such artificial delay is a hassle - no one would have
> patience to wait even half a second until the menu finally appears.
> But this could be implemented anyway when users will demand this.

I think this is useful especially on laptop computer with Mac.
As inferred on other posts laptop computer with Mac does not have
mouse-3.  However, it is possible that I’m the only one.

>> * Open by other frame
>> 
>> File would be opened by this window. Sometimes I want to open it by
>> other frame.  It is good if which window to open, is selectable after
>> showing context-menu. I do not know how to do so.
> 
> Sorry, I don't understand what menu do you mean, maybe in Dired mode?

`ffap-at-mouse’ will open a file under pointer on `this window’.
Randomly I want to open it by `other frame’.
It’s good if I can choose open the file on `this window’ or `other frame’.
Is there a way to detect meta key pressed when select one of menu items?

>> * Details
>> 
>> It is handy to have buffer menu when right click mode bar.
> 
> I don't see where buffer-menu-open currently is used on the mode-line.
>> (define-key map [remap buffer-menu-open] context-menu-entry)
> 
> This gives the error "void-variable map".


This suggestion may be unrelated to context-menu.
On mode bar, both mouse-1 and mouse-3 switches buffer. 
I think mouse-3 should show something like (mouse-buffer-menu-map).

>> Also it is handy to have frame menu when right click title bar.
> 
> I think this is a good idea.
> 
>> I do not know how to do so.
> 
> I do not know how to do this for the frame title bar.
> But currently I'm doing this for the tab bar.

OK.

>> Also it is nice to show word candidates by ispell when click a word.
> 
> Maybe like flyspell-mode?

I have an idea. Possibly, send patch in the future.

>> ** context-menu-region
>> 
>> All commands belong to `Edit' in menu bar.
>> I think `context-menu-edit' sounds better.
> 
> I already tried to use your idea to name it `context-menu-edit'.
> But the problem is that other functions like context-menu-undo are also
> related to editing.  OTOH, some items in context-menu-region don't do
> editing such as "Select All" is not editing, "Copy" is not editing, etc.
> 

>> Isn't it better to use `menu-bar-edit-menu' as a source rather than
>> create a menu from scratch?
> 
> I already tried this idea but this menu is already available
> in the global menu that already can be enabled by adding
> context-menu-global to context-menu-functions.
> But maybe `context-menu-edit' could be added as well
> from `menu-bar-edit-menu'.


OK.  I only wanted to suggest reducing maintenance cost.

> 
>> On paste when there is a region and delete-selection-mode is t, the
>> region should be replaced by the text.
> 
> Please explain how the region should be replaced by the text,
> when mouse-yank-at-click or mouse-yank-primary is used
> to paste where the mouse is clicked.  Should it delete the region
> and paste where mouse is clicked on another part of the buffer?
> What if the mouse is clicked in another window?

When there is a region and yank text by `C-y’, the text would
be replaced.

I think when there is a region and point in on region, region
should be replaced by text.  No?

>> ** no multiple horizontal lines
>> 
>> Sometimes I see double lines on the context menu.  I think that there is
>> no useful case to have double lines.  To allow only one horizontal line
>> would look cool.
> 
> Right, double separators should be removed.

OK.

>> ** reuse existing menu
>> 
>> I cannot figure out how to include pre-existing menu such for
>> (mouse-buffer-menu-map).  To lean how to manipulate menu is not easy.
>> It's nice to have an example something like below (does not work).
>> 
>>  (defun context-menu-buffer (menu)
>>  "Add a buffer menu entry to MENU."
>>    (let ((map (mouse-buffer-menu-map)))
>>      (define-key-after menu [buffer] map))
>>    menu)
> 
> Adding the existing menu is not easy.  There are some examples in
> context-menu-global, context-menu-local, context-menu-minor.

OK.  I did not know it is not easy.
I cannot find guid line how the menu should be created.
Do you know where to look?








  reply	other threads:[~2021-08-23  3:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 101+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <74BC00E9-2509-47DA-9428-1523FF7F3B33@acm.org>
2021-08-18 16:42 ` bug#50067: Context menus Juri Linkov
2021-08-18 17:46   ` Mattias Engdegård
2021-08-18 17:53     ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-08-19 14:22     ` Mattias Engdegård
2021-08-20  7:31       ` Juri Linkov
2021-08-20 17:06         ` Mattias Engdegård
2021-08-20 23:31           ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-08-21  4:43         ` Tak Kunihiro
2021-08-21  6:33           ` Tak Kunihiro
2021-08-22  8:28           ` Juri Linkov
2021-08-23  3:11             ` Tak Kunihiro [this message]
2021-08-23  7:24               ` Juri Linkov
2021-08-24 10:12                 ` Tak Kunihiro
2021-08-24 17:23                   ` Juri Linkov
2021-08-24 23:43                     ` Tak Kunihiro
2021-08-25 17:45                       ` Juri Linkov
2021-08-26  6:13                         ` Juri Linkov
2021-08-27  6:24                           ` Juri Linkov
2021-08-28  5:18                             ` Tak Kunihiro
2021-08-31 17:37                 ` Juri Linkov
2021-08-31 17:43               ` Juri Linkov
2021-08-31 18:58                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-09-01  7:12                   ` Juri Linkov
2021-08-18 17:46   ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-08-18 18:01     ` Mattias Engdegård
2021-08-18 18:11       ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-08-18 18:06     ` Juri Linkov
2021-08-18 18:12       ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-08-18 18:39         ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-08-19  1:31           ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2021-08-19  6:44             ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-08-18 18:40         ` Juri Linkov
2021-08-18 18:59           ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-08-19  7:12             ` Juri Linkov
2021-08-19  7:57               ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-08-20  7:29                 ` Juri Linkov
2021-08-20 10:29                   ` Mattias Engdegård
2021-08-20 10:53                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-08-20 11:32                       ` Mattias Engdegård
2021-08-20 16:50                         ` Juri Linkov
2021-08-20 17:11                           ` Mattias Engdegård
2021-08-20 11:32                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-08-20 16:36                     ` Juri Linkov
2021-08-20 17:59                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-08-20 19:29                         ` Mattias Engdegård
2021-08-21  9:42                           ` Alan Third
2021-08-21 10:57                             ` Mattias Engdegård
2021-08-21 11:17                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-08-21 11:45                                 ` Mattias Engdegård
2021-08-21 12:16                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-08-22 19:11                                     ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-08-22 19:22                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-08-22 19:54                                         ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-08-23  2:21                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-08-23 11:18                                             ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-08-23 11:40                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-08-23 16:02                                                 ` Juri Linkov
2021-08-24 17:59                                                   ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-08-25 14:15                                                     ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-08-25 15:59                                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-08-26 13:01                                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-08-26 21:05                                                       ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-08-26 21:07                                                         ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-08-27  6:13                                                           ` Juri Linkov
2021-08-27  6:26                                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-08-30  2:45                                                           ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-08-30 11:57                                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-08-31  7:05                                                               ` Juri Linkov
2021-08-31 12:24                                                                 ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-08-31 16:56                                                                   ` Juri Linkov
2021-08-31 20:23                                                                     ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-09-01  7:08                                                                       ` Juri Linkov
2021-09-01 19:03                                                                         ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-09-05  0:55                                                                         ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-09-05  8:37                                                                           ` Juri Linkov
2021-09-05 19:25                                                                             ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-08-22  8:46                         ` Juri Linkov
2021-08-15  8:48 Juri Linkov
2021-08-15 11:56 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-08-15 16:12   ` Juri Linkov
2021-08-16 11:31     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-08-17  8:12       ` Juri Linkov
2021-08-18  4:38         ` Tak Kunihiro
2021-08-18  7:47           ` Juri Linkov
2021-08-28  9:08 ` Naoya Yamashita
2021-08-28 18:50   ` Juri Linkov
2021-09-27 15:30 ` Juri Linkov
2021-09-27 15:50   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-09-28 18:49     ` Juri Linkov
2021-09-29  7:00       ` Juri Linkov
2021-09-27 18:41   ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-09-28 18:54     ` Juri Linkov
2021-09-28 19:31       ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-09-27 15:33 ` Juri Linkov
2021-10-20 16:59 ` Juri Linkov
2021-11-08 20:05   ` Juri Linkov
2021-11-18 18:38     ` Juri Linkov
2021-11-25  7:50       ` Juri Linkov
2021-11-25  8:38         ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-25 19:28           ` Juri Linkov
2021-11-30 18:12             ` Juri Linkov

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