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From: Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com>
To: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
Cc: Juanma Barranquero <lekktu@gmail.com>, 6991@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#6991: Please keep bytecode out of *Backtrace* buffers
Date: Wed, 7 Aug 2013 15:25:01 -0700 (PDT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <0095ac50-a6da-4058-a981-43954ba62e12@default> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <<FEE817DF5DCC41CD9156B414FF2088D1@us.oracle.com>>

Can we please fix this?  What about Stefan's patch?  Etc.

> Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2013 2:43 PM
> 
> > Sent: Monday, July 02, 2012 12:06 PM
> >
> > > You can try the simple patch below.  It doesn't cut it for me, and
> > > I think the only way to make it work well would be to change the
> > > representation of the byte-codes so that they're not just a "unibyte
> > > string" but an object with a distinctive type: the patch
> > > only catches the case where the byte-codes appear within a printed
> > > byte-compiled-function, not when they're arguments to the
> > > `byte-code' function or to the `make-byte-code' function, and I'm sure
> > > there can be other cases.
> >
> > Thanks, but I don't build Emacs.  Hopefully something like
> > this will be added to Emacs itself, even if it is only a partial
> > solution.
> >
> > Did you mean to close the bug?  It seems to be getting closed
> > just because (?) 6991-done is in the recipients list.
> >
> > If you did not mean to close it, let's please reopen it.
> > Even if it is made only a wishlist item, it is a useful enhancement
> > request.
> 
> Can we please follow up on this?  The status seems to be `wishlist' but
> tagged `wontfix', which doesn't make a lot of sense to me.
> 
> I cannot build Emacs to test this.  Could someone else please test it?  Or
> could it please be installed without testing?  (Seriously.)
> 
> It would _really_ be helpful if there were no binary crap in Lisp
> backtraces.  Does that stuff actually help anyone?  If so, perhaps we can
> keep it as a (non-default) option, but otherwise, can't we simply elide
> anything that is not a printable character, at the least?
> 
> I mean replace it by `...', not just change a `display' property.  The
> problems
> I encounter arise from trying to copy + paste the backtrace.
> 
> I don't understand why we even have backtraces that one cannot copy & paste
> completely, into, e.g., an email.  What's the point of that?  If I try to
> paste a copied backtrace I need to paste bits of it piecemeal, because the
> binary parts do not paste.  That is tedious and error prone.  Many users
> might not even realize that the backtrace did not get completely pasted.
> 
> Why is it so hard to advance on something like this?  Stefan provided a C
> patch to test, and that was the end of the thread.
> 
> So much stuff gets added to the Emacs C sources anyway, sometimes breaking
> all kinds of stuff.  Why don't you please just go ahead and install your
> patch, Stefan, so we can see whether and how much it helps?
> 
> Please consider trying to do something to advance this schmilblick.  I am
> sure that it will be appreciated by more than just me.





  parent reply	other threads:[~2013-08-07 22:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 50+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-09-07  1:35 bug#6991: Please keep bytecode out of *Backtrace* buffers jidanni
2012-02-22  1:02 ` Glenn Morris
2012-02-22 16:43   ` Drew Adams
2012-02-22 17:01     ` Juanma Barranquero
2012-07-02 17:40       ` Drew Adams
2012-07-02 18:38         ` Stefan Monnier
2012-07-02 19:06           ` Drew Adams
2013-01-24 22:43             ` Drew Adams
     [not found]             ` <<FEE817DF5DCC41CD9156B414FF2088D1@us.oracle.com>
2013-08-07 22:25               ` Drew Adams [this message]
2016-02-26  6:41           ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2016-02-26 14:11             ` Drew Adams
2016-02-27  0:52               ` John Wiegley
2016-02-27  1:49                 ` Drew Adams
2016-11-19  1:55                   ` npostavs
2016-11-19  2:37                     ` Drew Adams
2016-11-19  7:41                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-11-19 14:39                       ` npostavs
2016-11-19 15:07                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-11-19 15:20                           ` npostavs
2016-11-19 18:34                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-11-19 22:33                               ` npostavs
2016-11-20 15:46                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-11-22 18:07                                   ` Noam Postavsky
2016-11-22 18:52                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-11-22 21:07                                       ` Noam Postavsky
2016-11-23 16:05                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-11-26 17:18                                           ` npostavs
2016-11-26 18:54                                             ` Stefan Monnier
2017-02-12  2:26                                               ` npostavs
2017-05-28 14:58                                                 ` npostavs
2017-06-24 22:27                                                   ` npostavs
2017-06-25 19:11                                                     ` Stefan Monnier
2017-06-26  3:34                                                       ` npostavs
2017-06-26  4:02                                                         ` Stefan Monnier
2017-06-26 12:50                                                           ` npostavs
2017-06-26 14:54                                                             ` Stefan Monnier
2017-06-27  3:56                                                               ` npostavs
2017-06-27 16:18                                                                 ` Stefan Monnier
2017-06-29 23:52                                                                   ` npostavs
2016-11-26 23:45                                             ` Richard Stallman
2016-11-27  0:33                                               ` Noam Postavsky
2016-11-27  3:34                                                 ` Clément Pit--Claudel
2016-11-27  3:36                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-11-27 14:10                                                   ` Noam Postavsky
2016-11-27 23:21                                                 ` Richard Stallman
2016-11-19 17:08                       ` Richard Stallman
2016-02-27  4:13                 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2017-09-11 10:57 ` bug#6991: Rocky Bernstein
2017-09-11 14:28   ` bug#6991: Eli Zaretskii
2017-09-13  1:13     ` bug#6991: Rocky Bernstein

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