From: Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com>
To: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
Cc: Juanma Barranquero <lekktu@gmail.com>, 6991@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#6991: Please keep bytecode out of *Backtrace* buffers
Date: Wed, 7 Aug 2013 15:25:01 -0700 (PDT) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <0095ac50-a6da-4058-a981-43954ba62e12@default> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <<FEE817DF5DCC41CD9156B414FF2088D1@us.oracle.com>>
Can we please fix this? What about Stefan's patch? Etc.
> Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2013 2:43 PM
>
> > Sent: Monday, July 02, 2012 12:06 PM
> >
> > > You can try the simple patch below. It doesn't cut it for me, and
> > > I think the only way to make it work well would be to change the
> > > representation of the byte-codes so that they're not just a "unibyte
> > > string" but an object with a distinctive type: the patch
> > > only catches the case where the byte-codes appear within a printed
> > > byte-compiled-function, not when they're arguments to the
> > > `byte-code' function or to the `make-byte-code' function, and I'm sure
> > > there can be other cases.
> >
> > Thanks, but I don't build Emacs. Hopefully something like
> > this will be added to Emacs itself, even if it is only a partial
> > solution.
> >
> > Did you mean to close the bug? It seems to be getting closed
> > just because (?) 6991-done is in the recipients list.
> >
> > If you did not mean to close it, let's please reopen it.
> > Even if it is made only a wishlist item, it is a useful enhancement
> > request.
>
> Can we please follow up on this? The status seems to be `wishlist' but
> tagged `wontfix', which doesn't make a lot of sense to me.
>
> I cannot build Emacs to test this. Could someone else please test it? Or
> could it please be installed without testing? (Seriously.)
>
> It would _really_ be helpful if there were no binary crap in Lisp
> backtraces. Does that stuff actually help anyone? If so, perhaps we can
> keep it as a (non-default) option, but otherwise, can't we simply elide
> anything that is not a printable character, at the least?
>
> I mean replace it by `...', not just change a `display' property. The
> problems
> I encounter arise from trying to copy + paste the backtrace.
>
> I don't understand why we even have backtraces that one cannot copy & paste
> completely, into, e.g., an email. What's the point of that? If I try to
> paste a copied backtrace I need to paste bits of it piecemeal, because the
> binary parts do not paste. That is tedious and error prone. Many users
> might not even realize that the backtrace did not get completely pasted.
>
> Why is it so hard to advance on something like this? Stefan provided a C
> patch to test, and that was the end of the thread.
>
> So much stuff gets added to the Emacs C sources anyway, sometimes breaking
> all kinds of stuff. Why don't you please just go ahead and install your
> patch, Stefan, so we can see whether and how much it helps?
>
> Please consider trying to do something to advance this schmilblick. I am
> sure that it will be appreciated by more than just me.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2013-08-07 22:25 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 50+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-09-07 1:35 bug#6991: Please keep bytecode out of *Backtrace* buffers jidanni
2012-02-22 1:02 ` Glenn Morris
2012-02-22 16:43 ` Drew Adams
2012-02-22 17:01 ` Juanma Barranquero
2012-07-02 17:40 ` Drew Adams
2012-07-02 18:38 ` Stefan Monnier
2012-07-02 19:06 ` Drew Adams
2013-01-24 22:43 ` Drew Adams
[not found] ` <<FEE817DF5DCC41CD9156B414FF2088D1@us.oracle.com>
2013-08-07 22:25 ` Drew Adams [this message]
2016-02-26 6:41 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2016-02-26 14:11 ` Drew Adams
2016-02-27 0:52 ` John Wiegley
2016-02-27 1:49 ` Drew Adams
2016-11-19 1:55 ` npostavs
2016-11-19 2:37 ` Drew Adams
2016-11-19 7:41 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-11-19 14:39 ` npostavs
2016-11-19 15:07 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-11-19 15:20 ` npostavs
2016-11-19 18:34 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-11-19 22:33 ` npostavs
2016-11-20 15:46 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-11-22 18:07 ` Noam Postavsky
2016-11-22 18:52 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-11-22 21:07 ` Noam Postavsky
2016-11-23 16:05 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-11-26 17:18 ` npostavs
2016-11-26 18:54 ` Stefan Monnier
2017-02-12 2:26 ` npostavs
2017-05-28 14:58 ` npostavs
2017-06-24 22:27 ` npostavs
2017-06-25 19:11 ` Stefan Monnier
2017-06-26 3:34 ` npostavs
2017-06-26 4:02 ` Stefan Monnier
2017-06-26 12:50 ` npostavs
2017-06-26 14:54 ` Stefan Monnier
2017-06-27 3:56 ` npostavs
2017-06-27 16:18 ` Stefan Monnier
2017-06-29 23:52 ` npostavs
2016-11-26 23:45 ` Richard Stallman
2016-11-27 0:33 ` Noam Postavsky
2016-11-27 3:34 ` Clément Pit--Claudel
2016-11-27 3:36 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-11-27 14:10 ` Noam Postavsky
2016-11-27 23:21 ` Richard Stallman
2016-11-19 17:08 ` Richard Stallman
2016-02-27 4:13 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2017-09-11 10:57 ` bug#6991: Rocky Bernstein
2017-09-11 14:28 ` bug#6991: Eli Zaretskii
2017-09-13 1:13 ` bug#6991: Rocky Bernstein
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