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From: "Drew Adams" <drew.adams@oracle.com>
To: "'Jason Rumney'" <jasonr@f2s.com>, <1754@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com>
Cc: 'Chong Yidong' <cyd@stupidchicken.com>
Subject: bug#1754: 23.0.60; tool-bar is shown with tool-bar-mode off
Date: Thu, 1 Jan 2009 17:14:15 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <009201c96c77$6e2de7a0$0200a8c0@us.oracle.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <495D578C.4060104@f2s.com>

> > Absolutely not. The mode should affect all existing and 
> > future frames. That's always been the case, and it is how other,
> > similar modes, such as `menu-bar-mode', work.
> >   
> 
> If that was the case, you would not be able to have minibuffer, ediff 
> and speedbar frames without menu or toolbar if you were 
> displaying those in other frames.

Of course you would. I do that myself. You do that by changing the frame
parameter for the given frame, not by using the global mode function
`menu-bar-mode' or `tool-bar-mode'. There is nothing new here - this is the way
it has always worked.

> > It has never been the case that some frame alist overrides 
> > the current mode value.
> 
> It always has been the case for me.

No, it has not. Try Emacs 22 (or 21 or 20). `M-x tool-bar-mode' and `M-x
menu-bar-mode' affect all existing and future frames. That doesn't mean you
can't tweak an individual frame, by changing its parameters. But those are
global commands. Always have been.







  reply	other threads:[~2009-01-02  1:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 51+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-01-01  3:05 bug#1754: 23.0.60; tool-bar is shown with tool-bar-mode off Chong Yidong
2009-01-01  5:17 ` Drew Adams
2009-01-01  7:03   ` Chong Yidong
2009-01-01 21:28     ` Drew Adams
2009-01-01 21:51       ` Drew Adams
2009-01-02  0:01       ` Jason Rumney
2009-01-02  1:14         ` Drew Adams
2009-01-02  2:27           ` Drew Adams
2009-01-02  2:47             ` Drew Adams
2009-01-02 11:57             ` Jason Rumney
2009-01-02 14:50               ` martin rudalics
2009-01-01  7:36   ` Jason Rumney
2009-01-01 21:28     ` Drew Adams
2009-01-01 23:53       ` Jason Rumney
2009-01-02  1:14         ` Drew Adams [this message]
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2009-01-01 13:47 grischka
2009-01-01 13:51 ` Jason Rumney
2009-01-01 14:30   ` grischka
2008-12-31 22:15 Drew Adams
2009-01-01 15:24 ` martin rudalics
2009-01-01 15:53   ` Jason Rumney
2009-01-01 16:09     ` martin rudalics
2009-01-01 21:28   ` Drew Adams
2009-01-01 21:51     ` Drew Adams
2009-01-02  7:52       ` martin rudalics
2009-01-02  7:52     ` martin rudalics
2009-01-03  3:12       ` Stefan Monnier
2009-01-03 10:13         ` martin rudalics
2009-01-05  4:10           ` Stefan Monnier
2009-01-05  7:57             ` martin rudalics
2009-01-05 22:20               ` Stefan Monnier
2009-01-06 13:37                 ` martin rudalics
2009-01-09 19:37                 ` martin rudalics
2009-01-10  2:29                   ` Stefan Monnier
2009-01-10 10:04                     ` martin rudalics
2009-01-10 22:38                       ` Stefan Monnier
2009-01-11 11:22                         ` martin rudalics
2009-01-11 14:56                           ` Stefan Monnier
2009-01-11 17:14                             ` martin rudalics
2009-01-11 23:12                               ` Stefan Monnier
2009-01-12  9:58                                 ` martin rudalics
2009-01-12 15:23                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2009-01-12 16:00                                     ` martin rudalics
2009-01-12 18:29                                       ` Stefan Monnier
2009-01-12 19:33                                         ` Lennart Borgman
2009-01-12 20:57                                           ` Stefan Monnier
2009-01-12 21:59                                         ` Drew Adams
2009-01-14 14:20                                         ` martin rudalics
2009-01-17 18:33           ` Drew Adams
2009-01-09 19:37 ` martin rudalics
2009-01-09 20:21   ` Chong Yidong

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