From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Drew Adams" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs,gmane.emacs.pretest.bugs Subject: bug#2589: 23.0.90; `C-x h' in minibuffer should not include prompt Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 13:26:19 -0800 Message-ID: <008901c99ea2$32fea6d0$0200a8c0@us.oracle.com> Reply-To: Drew Adams , 2589@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1236386648 6007 80.91.229.12 (7 Mar 2009 00:44:08 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 7 Mar 2009 00:44:08 +0000 (UTC) To: Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Mar 07 01:45:25 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1LfkfK-0007uD-Iy for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 07 Mar 2009 01:45:22 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:34958 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Lfkdz-0006T7-9H for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 06 Mar 2009 19:43:59 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Lfkdk-0006Ml-C1 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 06 Mar 2009 19:43:44 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Lfkdj-0006Lt-GD for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 06 Mar 2009 19:43:44 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=39176 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Lfkdi-0006Lo-TG for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 06 Mar 2009 19:43:43 -0500 Original-Received: from rzlab.ucr.edu ([138.23.92.77]:46737) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Lfkdi-0003a9-8N for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 06 Mar 2009 19:43:42 -0500 Original-Received: from rzlab.ucr.edu (rzlab.ucr.edu [127.0.0.1]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id n270hew5032736; Fri, 6 Mar 2009 16:43:40 -0800 Original-Received: (from debbugs@localhost) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) id n270Z3Bg030311; Fri, 6 Mar 2009 16:35:03 -0800 X-Loop: owner@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com Resent-From: "Drew Adams" Resent-To: bug-submit-list@donarmstrong.com Resent-CC: Emacs Bugs Resent-Date: Sat, 07 Mar 2009 00:35:03 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: owner@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com X-Emacs-PR-Message: report 2589 X-Emacs-PR-Package: emacs X-Emacs-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by submit@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com id=B.123638563428894 (code B ref -1); Sat, 07 Mar 2009 00:35:03 +0000 Original-Received: (at submit) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 7 Mar 2009 00:27:14 +0000 X-Spam-Bayes: score:0.5 Bayes not run. spammytokens:Tokens not available. hammytokens:Tokens not available. Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org (fencepost.gnu.org [140.186.70.10]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id n270RBir028886 for ; Fri, 6 Mar 2009 16:27:12 -0800 Original-Received: from mail.gnu.org ([199.232.76.166]:46519 helo=mx10.gnu.org) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1LfkNi-0008Ep-O6 for emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org; Fri, 06 Mar 2009 19:27:10 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1LfkNg-0000Rl-SF for emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org; Fri, 06 Mar 2009 19:27:10 -0500 Original-Received: from rcsinet12.oracle.com ([148.87.113.124]:43009 helo=rgminet12.oracle.com) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1LfhYn-0007Jw-Ov for emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org; Fri, 06 Mar 2009 16:26:25 -0500 Original-Received: from acsinet13.oracle.com (acsinet13.oracle.com [141.146.126.235]) by rgminet12.oracle.com (Switch-3.3.1/Switch-3.3.1) with ESMTP id n26LQIHg025159 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK) for ; Fri, 6 Mar 2009 21:26:19 GMT Original-Received: from acsmt707.oracle.com (acsmt707.oracle.com [141.146.40.85]) by acsinet13.oracle.com (Switch-3.3.1/Switch-3.3.1) with ESMTP id n26LQYhm002688 for ; Fri, 6 Mar 2009 21:26:35 GMT Original-Received: from dradamslap1 (/141.144.64.121) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Fri, 06 Mar 2009 21:26:19 +0000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: AcmeojCL1me1hDUQSxCFNmcYRONwEQ== X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-Source-IP: acsmt707.oracle.com [141.146.40.85] X-Auth-Type: Internal IP X-CT-RefId: str=0001.0A010203.49B194FD.0080:SCFSTAT928724,ss=1,fgs=0 X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 1) X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) Resent-Date: Fri, 06 Mar 2009 19:43:44 -0500 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:26084 gmane.emacs.pretest.bugs:24076 Archived-At: The prompt text is part of the minibuffer, but it is not part of the user's input. It is good that you can select text from the prompt if you need to. But positioning and simple selection commands in the input area should generally act on the user input only. In particular, `C-x h' should select (mark) all of the user input, but only the input. The prompt should not be included in the selection. If a user really needs to select both the input and the prompt, exceptionally, s?he can do that in other (less direct) ways. Just as `C-a' does not move point to the prompt beginning (but you can do so indirectly, using `C-b'), so `C-x h' should similarly limit its action to the editing (input) area. Using the prompt as text is a secondary concern; it is not the first effect that users should see when they try to use simple editing commands. In GNU Emacs 23.0.90.1 (i386-mingw-nt5.1.2600) of 2009-02-01 on SOFT-MJASON Windowing system distributor `Microsoft Corp.', version 5.1.2600 configured using `configure --with-gcc (3.4)'