From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Joel F Rodriguez" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#18001: default behavior changes Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2014 14:28:36 -0700 Message-ID: <007b01cf9e18$42f945b0$c8ebd110$@tahoestores.com> References: <00ec01cf9d51$8e033380$aa099a80$@tahoestores.com> <83r41r9jkw.fsf@gnu.org> <005901cf9dff$7ba313a0$72e93ae0$@tahoestores.com> <83egxq9zqy.fsf@gnu.org> <006f01cf9e08$02536320$06fa2960$@tahoestores.com> <83d2da9x81.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1405200632 29312 80.91.229.3 (12 Jul 2014 21:30:32 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2014 21:30:32 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 18001@debbugs.gnu.org To: "'Glenn Morris'" , "'Eli Zaretskii'" Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Jul 12 23:30:25 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1X64sA-0002oj-3l for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; 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Sat, 12 Jul 2014 16:28:58 -0500 Original-Received: from Gossameri52500 ([71.83.116.179]) by impout004 with charter.net id RZUo1o00D3sJe5z01ZUomb; Sat, 12 Jul 2014 16:28:58 -0500 X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.1 cv=C/BnyG/+ c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=UnGWayXURV3/S+OdCuftyg==:117 a=UnGWayXURV3/S+OdCuftyg==:17 a=hOpmn2quAAAA:8 a=4DRs4JfoGycA:10 a=JHHFUuzbhCAA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=8Z6kr8O2AAAA:8 a=mDV3o1hIAAAA:8 a=ezKMSa6WwDua048elEAA:9 a=v1vBPZQtTZvhkDW5:21 a=AcxkeNJiKWoIVQ3Z:21 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=yODz45biO_EA:10 a=ii61gXl28gQA:10 In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0 Thread-Index: AQE388OtAf91KlqXugG7sgppMUHoEgLVSBNvAtngZeYBVtYUUwE7VyHqAeJDqn4B+JkEMgFVNJH5nGC5mbA= Content-Language: en-us X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:91477 Archived-At: Hi Eli, If you are asking did I find or read endless docs dealing with the proper etiquette for submitting a bug report to emacs? Then you are correct, I did not. The problem seems far too simple as to require extensive explanations and details un-related to solving the problem. I mean, how many versions of emacs are current under Freebsd-9.2-release? Exactly one. No, I got far too much static relative to semantics and no answers. The answer was so simple, I forgot it. I guess I confused the issue when I asked what changed. After 40 years in this field I can assure you it is much more important to come up with a simple answer, then to go off on a rage on bug reporters not being familiar with your specific jargon. I mean who still talks about text-terminals in the real world? This is indicative of the emacs docs on the whole, its primary keys are technical specific terms which makes it nearly impossible to format a query to google unless you have had your head buried in the source codes for months. Again, sorry for the ruckus, but I do like the old saying, "if it ain't broke, break it". Joel -----Original Message----- From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+joel=tahoestores.com@gnu.org [mailto:bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+joel=tahoestores.com@gnu.org] On Behalf Of Glenn Morris Sent: Saturday, July 12, 2014 1:28 PM To: Eli Zaretskii Cc: 18001@debbugs.gnu.org Subject: bug#18001: default behavior changes Eli Zaretskii wrote: > consistently omitting the bug address from the CC list and writing When people do this to me, then unless they have written something clearly intended to be private, I just assume it was a mistake and resend it to the bug address. Some people don't seem to get that "reply-to-all" is the way to go with bug reports.