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Are the ".el" files copied as well in that case? >> >> >> In this case the following might >> >> happen: As for C-h f `describe-function-1' will execute >> >> >> >> ;; See if lisp files are present where they where installed=20 >> from. >> >> (if (not (eq file-name 'C-source)) >> >> (setq file-name (find-source-lisp-file file-name))) >> >> >> >> which sets `file-name' to the ".el" file from the checkout directo= ry >> >> (because you did compile it there) and installs the corresponding >> >> reference in the hyperlink. >> >> >> >> As for C-h v `describe-variable' does _not_ care whether you compi= led=20 >> in >> >> another directory and simply goes to the file supplied by=20 >> `symbol-file'. >> >> You could try inserting the snipped above in `describe-variable' >> >> immediately before the line >> >> >> >> (if file-name >> >> >> >> and see whether it now jumps to the checkout directory instead. >> > >> > >> > Yes, I guess that is correct. >> >> Did you verify it? > > I did not look at the details again since I did not have time to fix th= is.=20 > I notice that C-h v takes me to the Emacs install tree I am using and C= -h=20 > f takes me to the CVS checkout tree where I compiled Emacs. > >> >> Personally, I'd prefer something like the following in both cases: >> >> >> >> (unless (or (eq file-name 'C-source) >> >> (file-exists-p file-name)) >> >> (setq file-name (find-source-lisp-file file-name))) >> > >> > Thanks martin. I think a variable (or an option) for which elisp to= go >> > to would be the best. Is there any reason not to have that? >> >> We'd have to do something similar for definitions in the C-sources too. >> Do I suppose correctly that the C-sources are not copied automatically >> when you explicitly specify the install directory? I'm too lazy to lo= ok >> into this ... > > I have seen no problems with the C sources. I always get to the CVS=20 > checkout tree from C-h v,f. > > I did not even know they could be copied when you do make install. How = do=20 > you do that? > > > > >=20