From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Drew Adams" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#1305: All code that currently beeps should usevisual bellinstead Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2008 13:20:04 -0800 Message-ID: <005001c94443$443659c0$0200a8c0@us.oracle.com> References: <009901c9421f$5bd0a6b0$0200a8c0@us.oracle.com><00ad01c942a0$1f49ca60$0200a8c0@us.oracle.com> <00ff01c942fd$83132980$0200a8c0@us.oracle.com> Reply-To: Drew Adams , 1305@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1226439051 20356 80.91.229.12 (11 Nov 2008 21:30:51 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2008 21:30:51 +0000 (UTC) Cc: jasonspiro4@gmail.com, bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org To: <1305@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com>, "'Stefan Monnier'" , "'Eli Zaretskii'" Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Nov 11 22:31:50 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1L00px-0002rv-DF for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 11 Nov 2008 22:31:50 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:57691 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1L00oo-0002lc-UX for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 11 Nov 2008 16:30:38 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1L00oQ-0002P2-52 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 11 Nov 2008 16:30:14 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1L00oP-0002Mo-8G for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 11 Nov 2008 16:30:13 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=36663 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1L00oN-0002MI-UV for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 11 Nov 2008 16:30:11 -0500 Original-Received: from rzlab.ucr.edu ([138.23.92.77]:59246) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1L00oN-0001Df-CS for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 11 Nov 2008 16:30:11 -0500 Original-Received: from rzlab.ucr.edu (rzlab.ucr.edu [127.0.0.1]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id mABLU7ur010129; Tue, 11 Nov 2008 13:30:07 -0800 Original-Received: (from debbugs@localhost) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) id mABLU4Ys009968; Tue, 11 Nov 2008 13:30:04 -0800 X-Loop: don@donarmstrong.com Resent-From: "Drew Adams" Resent-To: bug-submit-list@donarmstrong.com Resent-CC: Emacs Bugs Resent-Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2008 21:30:04 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: don@donarmstrong.com X-Emacs-PR-Message: report 1305 X-Emacs-PR-Package: emacs X-Emacs-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 1305-submit@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com id=B1305.12264384178590 (code B ref 1305); Tue, 11 Nov 2008 21:30:04 +0000 Original-Received: (at 1305) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 11 Nov 2008 21:20:17 +0000 Original-Received: from acsinet11.oracle.com (acsinet11.oracle.com [141.146.126.233]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id mABLKEVo008063 for <1305@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com>; Tue, 11 Nov 2008 13:20:15 -0800 Original-Received: from rgminet15.oracle.com (rcsinet15.oracle.com [148.87.113.117]) by acsinet11.oracle.com (Switch-3.3.1/Switch-3.3.1) with ESMTP id mABLKXHC015452 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Tue, 11 Nov 2008 21:20:35 GMT Original-Received: from acsmt702.oracle.com (acsmt702.oracle.com [141.146.40.80]) by rgminet15.oracle.com (Switch-3.3.1/Switch-3.3.1) with ESMTP id mABLK56O029973; Tue, 11 Nov 2008 21:20:07 GMT Original-Received: from dradamslap1 (/24.23.165.218) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Tue, 11 Nov 2008 21:20:01 +0000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <00ff01c942fd$83132980$0200a8c0@us.oracle.com> Thread-Index: AclC2URrMUmx6wt9S7qLUWqgA9F1wgAIQX8wAFIB7oA= X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-Source-IP: acsmt702.oracle.com [141.146.40.80] X-Auth-Type: Internal IP X-CT-RefId: str=0001.0A09020B.4919F703.021B:SCFSTAT928724,ss=1,fgs=0 X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) Resent-Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2008 16:30:13 -0500 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:22291 Archived-At: > As Eli said, just get rid of gratuitous uses of the bell. > It's likely that there are plenty. And that will leave the more > appropriate uses, if there are any. > > Someone (Jason?) mentioned the bell when quitting and when an > error is raised. Those are very common uses that could no doubt > be eliminated. Each error should display a message anyway, and > there is no need for a bell when you quit (C-q). Getting rid of > even just those occurrences would take care of much of the > annoyance. > > Or if you prefer, leave those occurrences in, but add an > option or two: `bell-when-quit-flag' and `bell-when-error-flag' > - with default values nil. Perhaps let the values be `bell', > `visible-bell', `bell+visible-bell', and nil. Let me draw your attention to this suggestion about having multiple ding levels: http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel/74539/focus=74564 There were no replies to that suggestion, but perhaps it becomes more relevant in the current context.